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#85990 - 12/10/09 03:11 AM Re: Bullfighting? No, Thanks [Re: eskimo joe]
Donna Cuervo Offline
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I'm sure he could afford to go to all the stores - even Loewe.

I've seen Joselito a lot of times even when he was very young.

Why is he not around much anymore? Did he retire?

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#85991 - 12/10/09 05:30 AM Re: Bullfighting? No, Thanks [Re: Donna Cuervo]
steve robinson Offline
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Donna ... that store is amazing .. And I will get the name for you . He was trying on shoes and boots .. I couldnīt see a pair of shoes for less than 500 Euros .. Since heīs an immensely rich guy .. I would assume he would be paying something like 1000 Euros for his shoes . With his black hair and green eyes he really stands out from the crowd . I saw an interview with him yesterday on TVE1 ( national TV ) and he seems an immensely nice person ... very sincere and honest .

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#85992 - 12/10/09 07:35 AM Re: Bullfighting? No, Thanks [Re: steve robinson]
eskimo joe Offline
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Yes Donna he is retired now . I think he may be an artistic director for Cesar Jiminez and a ganadero too .

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#85993 - 12/10/09 08:41 AM Re: Bullfighting? No, Thanks [Re: eskimo joe]
teachertraveler8 Offline
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At what age does a bullfighter retire? How many years does a bullfighting career last, provided you don't take "early retirement"?

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#85994 - 12/10/09 05:23 PM Re: Bullfighting? No, Thanks [Re: teachertraveler8]
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#85995 - 12/11/09 02:54 AM Re: Bullfighting? No, Thanks [Re: Jan D]
eskimo joe Offline
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I think around the mid 30's would be about average . Some do go on longer Espla is retiring this year and is 51 and was still performing at a top level . Ortega Cano is 55 an says he is retiring next year , but I think he should have retired a few years ago .
Even though matadors retire from bullfighting a lot of them still make the odd appearance at festivals etc .

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#85996 - 12/11/09 03:24 AM Re: Bullfighting? No, Thanks [Re: eskimo joe]
Donna Cuervo Offline
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Are you sure those two are 51 and 55? I remember years ago they seemed much older than I am, and now they're suddenly a few years younger? I guess men lie about their ages too.

What about Antonete? He was still active probably in his 70s. They say he needed the money.

Isn't Cayetano the brother of Francisco Rivera Ordonez? Were both parents the same?

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#86002 - 12/11/09 10:28 AM Re: Bullfighting? No, Thanks [Re: Donna Cuervo]
eskimo joe Offline
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Thats just what I read online Donna , there is a few torero's who have lost a year or 2 .
Yes Fran and Cayetano have the same Parents, Their mother was Carmen Ordonez was Antonio Ordonez daughter and thier Father was the Paquirri who was killed by a bull in 1984 .

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#86004 - 12/11/09 01:55 PM Re: Bullfighting? No, Thanks [Re: eskimo joe]
Mongo Offline
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Registered: 03/17/01
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Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
Curro Romero made it to age 66.

Don't forget the great uncle of the Ordonez brothers was Luis Miguel Dominguin and the great grandfather was Cayetano "Nino de la Palma" Ordonez, who Hemingway wrote about in Death in the Afternoon and as Pedro Romero in The Sun Also Rises.

I came across an interesting article in an old issue of Sports Illustrated. It was about an American College student who had a chance encounter with the elder Ordonez while an exchange student in Madrid.

SI Article

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#86005 - 12/11/09 03:54 PM Re: Bullfighting? No, Thanks [Re: Mongo]
steve robinson Offline
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Wow thatīs a dramatic story !

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