You are wrong Wolf, big time!

Generally when you read or see something like these incidents on TV, most of the time it is white cops and blacks as the victims. Your statement Wolf comes across that there is not problem of racism in the U.S. This is far from the truth. Being a Republicans I was embarrassed by the use of racists tactics used by the Republicans party to help reelect George Bush on Gay Marriage issue. The Republicans are use to these type of tactics being a "white" party.

I personally think if the black 62 year old school teacher was white he would not have been beaten. Maybe arrested but not beaten.

Now start howling!

Bill

Since MM was us to stay on topic. I read this off of CNN's website today.

Reading the story I wonder how many Right-Wing Republicans are going to get mad about the discussion of euthanizing patients? I think it will be plenty in the up coming mid term elections because this is about the right to die in this country and the abortion issue.

But they will not get upset about the chain of events that placed the medical staff at the medical center to have these discussions in the first place. They might find the some of those events were caused by the White House and George Bush.

Bill

Bill,

Since I was a cop, I take issue with the comment you made. You've categorized white cops as cretins, and have painted a broad picture of racism that runs rampant amongst them, and have presented absolutely no evidence to support your "personal opinion" on the subject.

But, you're entitled to your opinion, and have a right to expound on it. But you might want to take a look in my closet. You won't find any white sheets and pointy little hats in there. But you will find an old police uniform with my awards on it, which I was given for doing my job, which was not "protecting whitey" as you seem to think is the norm for cops. You have no right to paint me, or any other person as a racist without evidence to support your statement.

Whether you're Republican or Democrat doesn't matter. That's totally beside the point. The fact is, there were Democrats in New Orelans, and the South, as well as Republicans, who dropped the ball. It wasn't something germain to one political party and not the other. Sorry!

As for your concern about the Republicans. I have concerns about all the errors, regardless of what party people represent, or the color of their skins. I'm not going to go on a witch hunt of blame when there's plenty to go around for a lot of people to share. I think everyone who failed should be held accountable.

By the way. I do believe there is racism in the US, and it isn't going away. But railing against cops like you did doesn't help resolve the problem, it adds to it. You call people something long enough and they will begin to believe that's what they're supposed to be. Kind of like a self fulfilling prophecy.

Wolf

I never said CRETINS! What I said when you read or see stories like this it is usually about white cops and black victims. I live in New York City, do I have to reminded you of the the NYPD cops, the broom handle and the black victim they shoved the up ....

Do you think the press is bias and only report about white cops beating blacks?

When I start reading stories of black cops beating up whites, what do I say. Wow things in this country has come a long way now, everyone is a equal victim.

Also the "white" cops in NO, who beat the black 62 year school teacher, using the word "cretins" to describe them is too polite of a word. Do you have a better word?

Bill

Wolf,
Both you and I belonged to a brotherhood that Bill from NYC doesn't even know about,or could care less.What he has to say in his posts I find useless.

fulano,

That's a little convoluted for me. And you think we live under a one party dictatorship? I think I remember voting a couple of years ago. Am I not allowed to vote for the party I choose? I bet you'd really like to see that.

Okay, okay, that must mean that the Democratic party is socialist because it believes in the destruction of private industry and the socialization of Health Care. If you say so.

Oh, please, Carlos11, what brotherhood would that be, the one that covers up crimes committed by fellow cops? Wonderful! How about a little respect for an elderly gentleman no matter what his color? Are these cops such wimps that they can't "subdue" an old overweight fellow two or three times their age?? Do you really think these guys would have beat the **** out of an old white guy? Oh, but Booklady reminds me these poor police officers are under so much stress.....Gee, I wonder who I can go beat up next time I feel tense.....
New Orleans cops shouldn't worry too much about temptations to beat up black people. Most of the citizens of color won't be returning anyway--they won't be able to afford those fancy condos Bush's people will be building. I think they're all moving to Texas, to Tom DeLay's district, and registering to vote.....

gazpacho, maybe you voted for your party of choice, but plenty of people in Ohio and Florida didn't have that opportunity. As for private enterprise under government control, try no-bid contracts to Halliburton.

I'm hopeful that this nightmare will end before it's too late.

Isn't it deplorable when one is quoted out of context! Hey Aidance,do yourself a favor! Do learn to read posts fully before you indict people!

Yes, they are under stress. Ask any Miami cop that lived through Hurricane Andrew. perhaps Carlos11 can tell you about it.

But, as I said in my post their behavior was unacceptable. If they cannot control their stress, they need a change of profession. Any passable psychologist will tell you the same.

Hey Wolf, I understand the old adage cops usually use when they feel under attack " one bad apple,bla bla, bla,and growing up in LA under the Chief Parkers, "we are on top they are on the bottom," "those Mexicans came from the hills,they are Indians who when drunk pull out knives", Chief Daryl Gates, "Gee I think the Choke Hold is an efective deterent, it's just that black people don't react to it like Normal People, and die more often".
Hey Wolf,word to the wise, when you have some maniacs like the NO cops who not only beat the crap out of some old retired school teacher, tried to cover it up by moving a horse into position to block the witnesses from viewing of the assault, then attacking a news photographer who might video the crime, etc;. Yea I know all about the circling of the wagons and deny, deny, deny,but when you have cops out of control and making all cops look bad don't you think the Public is intelligent enough to understand that all cops are not the gestapo? I do! Get rid of them, don't protect them with a bunch of tired verbiage!

Fulano,

Nobody has painted a picture of protection for cops that don't do their job properly. The picture that's been painted in this thread is that all cops are evil because of what was seen by a handful in NO. I think you should get the record straight before you say the opposite.

Then there's the comment that "it seems like all the beatings are white cops beating up on blacks." That's an indictment against all cops, and totally prejudicial against all cops.

The funny thing is, the people who are making these comments have conveniently forgotten the police officers who died on 9-11 trying to help people regardless of color. Where were all these "cop-bashers" then? Hiding in the woodwork because they didn't have dirt to throw?

The fact is, there are bad cops. Hell! There are bad attornies, bad doctors, and yes, even bad teachers. There are bad drivers, bad athletes, and yes, bad attitudes amongst some people in all phases of life, yet it's all the cops lumped into one group because of something that happened in NO? You're going to judge them all based on that?

This is what I object to, and rest assured, Carlos objects to the same thing. For someone to make us out like we're the scum of the earth because of something that happened in NO is rediculous.

People might want to read what Bookie posted. Carlos is a police officer in an area that dealt with a major disaster, and had to be one of those who helped people in their time of need. Yet you'd denigrate him for this service? You'd cast him as being like the picture in NO?

When people begin to deal with specifics, instead of painting these broad pictures that are deceitful and with the intent of maligning everyone because you "don't like them in general" is not objective. It's rampant hypocrisy!

Sorry if this rankles some feathers, but I'm not going to accept comments that make all cops look bad because someone has a dislike for them. If that's your problem, you'd better arm yourself with facts instead of inuendo, or expect people to attack the comments that are made so carelessly.

Wolf