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#79378 - 06/12/05 08:10 PM Re: Mexico - Economy
Pia Offline
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Registered: 04/03/05
Posts: 134
Loc: Finland
No, I'm still not saying that I'm afraid of your politics but I find it scary how afraid you are of ours: we've had our system for 50 years soon and what harm has it done to anyone? Extremes are never good, neither in religion nor in politics, and I'm strongly against communism, but I'm also against making health and education into commodities.

Your system has worked for you, which is why you support it so strongly, and I'm sure I would never have had the chance to get to where I'm now living there, which is why I support ours.

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#79379 - 11/20/05 03:09 AM Re: Mexico - Economy
desert dweller Offline
Member

Registered: 10/17/04
Posts: 553
Loc: Desert of Arizona
An update. Since the last posting on this rather heated thread last June, the stats have been released for FY2005 by the U.S. Border Patrol. A total of 277 illegal aliens died in the Arizona desert during the period of May to October 2005. After autopsy, all were sent back to the country of origin in a dignified manner, and treated with respect while here in the U.S.

With the detriorating economy in Latin America I fear that FY2006 will be worse.
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#79380 - 01/07/06 07:29 AM Re: Mexico - Economy
pippo Offline
Member

Registered: 09/20/03
Posts: 95
Loc: tarraco
Well, the numbers of this thread are not exactly.

Here is a good comparative of countries extracted from Dataranking.com

Gross Domestic Product:

1 United States
11,733.475
2 Japan
4,668.418
3 Germany
2,706.673
4 United Kingdom
2,125.509
5 France
2,018.080
6 Italy
1,680.691
7 Canada
995.833
8 Spain
992.992
9 Korea, Republic of (South Korea)
681.469
10 Mexico
676.497
11 Australia
617.607
12 Netherlands
577.985
13 Switzerland
358.004
14 Belgium
352.000
15 Sweden
346.531
16 Turkey
300.087
17 Austria
289.717
18 Norway
250.444
19 Denmark
242.344
20 Poland
241.766

(Notes: Today Chinese GDP is bigger than Italian and Spaniard GSP is bigger than Canada)

GDP per capita:

1 Luxembourg
69,929
2 Norway
54,521
3 Switzerland
49,305
4 Denmark
44,929
5 Ireland
44,888
6 Iceland
43,576
7 United States
39,934
8 Sweden
38,449
9 Japan
36,575
10 Austria
35,809
11 Finland
35,670
12 United Kingdom
35,460
13 Netherlands
35,416
14 Belgium
34,244
15 Germany
32,695
16 France
32,663
17 Canada
31,209
18 Australia
30,445
19 Italy
29,219
20 Spain
24,144
21 New Zealand
23,899
22 Greece
18,722
23 Portugal
16,375
24 Korea, Republic of (South Korea)
14,098
25 Czech Republic
10,480
26 Hungary
10,129
27 Slovakia
7,603
28 Mexico
6,506
29 Poland
6,227
30 Turkey
4,251


Homicides:

1 Mexico
14.72
2 United States
6.40
3 Portugal
3.46
4 Poland
2.97
5 Finland
2.82
6 Hungary
2.69
7 France
2.15
8 Slovakia
2.11
9 Italy
1.99
10 Sweden
1.87
11 Canada
1.73
12 Czech Republic
1.71
13 Australia
1.69
14 Korea, Republic of (South Korea)
1.60
15 United Kingdom
1.50 a
16 Netherlands
1.45
17 Greece
1.39
18 Germany
1.37
19 Belgium
1.30
20 Denmark
1.27
20 Switzerland
1.27
22 Iceland
1.25
23 New Zealand
1.23
24 Austria
1.16
25 Norway
.97
26 Ireland
.86
27 Spain
.81
28 Japan
.52

Child related problems:

1 Mexico
2.2
1 United States
2.2
3 Hungary
1.2
3 New Zealand
1.2
5 Austria
.9
6 Switzerland
.8
7 Australia
.7
7 Canada
.7
7 Denmark
.7
7 Finland
.7
11 Belgium
.6
11 Czech Republic
.6
11 Germany
.6
11 Japan
.6
11 Korea, Republic of (South Korea)
.6
16 France
.5
16 Netherlands
.5
16 Poland
.5
16 Sweden
.5
20 Portugal
.4
20 Slovakia
.4
20 United Kingdom
.4
23 Norway
.3
24 Greece
.2
24 Ireland
.2
24 Italy
.2
27 Spain
.1

Robberies, pickpocketing, etc...

Spain
489.8
2 Mexico
270.3
3 United States
220.1
4 United Kingdom
155.7 a
5 Portugal
145.3
6 Canada
102.2
7 Netherlands
101.7
8 Australia
100.6
9 France
88.6
10 Germany
78.4
11 Poland
73.4
12 Ireland
70.9
13 Sweden
68.7
14 Italy
59.9
15 New Zealand
49.0
16 Denmark
46.0
17 Finland
44.5
18 Czech Republic
42.4
19 Switzerland
32.2
20 Austria
31.1
21 Hungary
30.0
22 Norway
27.3
23 Slovakia
24.5
24 Belgium
24.2
25 Greece
12.3
26 Iceland
11.1
27 Korea, Republic of (South Korea)
9.1
28 Japan
2.3
28 Turkey
2.3

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#79381 - 01/07/06 07:27 PM Re: Mexico - Economy
gazpacho Offline
Executive Member

Registered: 06/23/00
Posts: 797
Loc: Macomb, MI U.S.
Pippo,

There's an old saying my father taught me. "Figures don't lie, but liars will figure." I find it hard to believe that Ireland has a higher GDP per capita than the U.S. And the crime statistics are rather unbelievable too, even if they only point to reported crimes.

I would like to see statistics on home and car ownership and employment statistics. If these show anyone topping the U.S. it will be those liars figuring. smile
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#79382 - 01/08/06 01:51 AM Re: Mexico - Economy
pippo Offline
Member

Registered: 09/20/03
Posts: 95
Loc: tarraco
Quote:
Pippo,

There's an old saying my father taught me. "Figures don't lie, but liars will figure." I find it hard to believe that Ireland has a higher GDP per capita than the U.S.
And there's another saying that taught me one of my lecturers at college:

"Statistics is the science which explains that if I eat one chicken and you eat nothing we both eated half chicken".

Maybe it's hard to belive for you that Ireland has a GDP per capita higuer than USA (and I understand why you think that) but if you bet your house on that idea you will lose it, that's sure.

Ireland in 1990 had a GDP per capita almost equally to the spaniard one, but in only 15 years, ONLY 15 Ireland has triple its GDP.
That's easy to understand, Ireland has less than 4 millions of inhabitants, it means that with only a hundred of big companies establishing its european headquarters in Ireland the jump in the income of people will be huge.
That's exactly what has happened: there's a lot of USA companies who has installed itselves in Ireland, If I remember well Microsoft is one of them.
Ireland is more attractive to american companies for two reasons:

1.- English is one of the national languages.
2.- Ireland has very low taxes.

If the same companies had installed their headquarters in a country like India the economic impact would had been WAY LITTLE, because India has one billion of inhabitants.

I copy and paste a good link if you want check the numbers (by the way, it's a great site for people who works or like the ecomics science)

http://dataranking.com/table.cgi?LG=e&TP=ne03-1&RG=1

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I would like to see statistics on home and car ownership and employment statistics. If these show anyone topping the U.S. it will be those liars figuring.
I can guarantee you that Spain has a bigger percentage of home ownership than USA, not bigger but much bigger, because that's a cultural thing (but this don't means that spaniards have a better income than americans, because the american GDP per capita is 75% bigger than the spaniard one).

If you want to know why USA is such a powerfull and great country you have to see these figures:

a) USA ranks 3 on population (first between OCDE countries)

b) USA ranks first between OCDE countries in percentage of youg people.

c) USA ranks first in GDP, in fact the GDP is so big that is higher than the addition of the next 5 countries.

d) USA ranks 1 in innvation

e) USA ranks first in Technology.

f) USA ranks first in business competitiviness.

g) USA ranks second in national businees environment quality

h) USA ranks 5 in percentage of computers.

i) USA ranks first in military expenditure.

I think that statistics reflect a good image of a country, one exemple, I know in Spain we have a big problem with pickpocketing, I saw the statistics and Spain ranks number 1 of all OCDE countries (I'm not surprised).
If you see the figures of your country, you could check if they show a real "image" of USA, or they don't:

http://dataranking.com/country.cgi?LG=e&CO=30

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