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#64237 - 03/17/04 01:01 PM Re: An apology to Spaniards
Wally Offline
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Registered: 03/17/04
Posts: 20
Loc: Seattle, WA, USA
MadridMan - Thank you. It appears that I simply posted in the wrong area and you moved it accordingly.

I work very hard to keep my ego away from my keyboard. Last night/this morning I realized too late that I was disobeying my second rule: DNFTEC (do not feed the energy creature). I should have stopped at two replies and left it at that. I'm very sorry that things grew to silly proportions.

As with everything, there is always something new to learn with each step.

Again, thank you.

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#64238 - 03/17/04 01:48 PM Re: An apology to Spaniards
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Registered: 08/19/01
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Loc: U.S.A.
MadridMan, thank you for stating what many of us felt. I was truly saddened that folks failed to remember that what really mattered was that our Spanish friends just lost many family and friends last Thursday.

Governments come and go, and we can discuss the merits and demerits forever. But there is a time and place for everything. Those precious lives lost will never return, our Spanish friends need time to mourn. Let's give it to them. Please. frown
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#64239 - 03/17/04 01:50 PM Re: An apology to Spaniards
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Well said, yourself, Booklady. It's not cool to kick a guy when they're down.
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#64240 - 03/17/04 01:58 PM Re: An apology to Spaniards
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Thank you, MM. I just took the effort to register to answer your apologies for YOUR indescriptible bad behavour banning me from the forum.

It's nice to see that after all you have been rather angered. Stings, isn't it. It stung me when you kicked me out just because my points were not popular with PP spanish.

Well, it seems I am not the only one that disturbs those poor saint helpful people...

laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

You are deserving this, and I can't be sorry for those 'saint' spanish who pused you to unfairly ban me form this board.

Ignacio

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#64241 - 03/17/04 02:07 PM Re: An apology to Spaniards
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Registered: 06/23/00
Posts: 797
Loc: Macomb, MI U.S.
Madridman and Spanish friends,

I am one of those hard-headed conservatives who is disappointed with the Spanish vote, but like I told Fernando, you were there for us when it really mattered, and I believe, the first country to offer us help. This means a lot more to me than not wanting to support us anymore. I hate the idea of war. Especially when I think of the poor mothers losing children in our inability to cope with the region.

And I am so sorry if your support led to the death of Spaniards. Al Q are dirty-rotten b*** and I can't wait to live in a world free of them. And also, on a personal matter, I know this is going to affect train service in Europe and that is just a shame.

I don't personally like socialism, but I'm willing to give your new leader a chance. While I don't apologize for the other conservative posters on this board, after all, they are entitled to an opinion, it's time for cooler heads to prevail.

I like arguing with left-wing Spaniards and Americans alike. I try to understand their side of the issues, but more than often can't. So please, don't leave this board on my, or anyone elses account. After all, if I didn't value your opinions, I wouldn't check them out.
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#64242 - 03/17/04 02:46 PM Re: An apology to Spaniards
MadridMan Offline


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Thank you, MM. I just took the effort to register to answer your apologies for YOUR indescriptible bad behavour banning me from the forum.
You're Ignacio?! I haven't banned you at all. I'm sure of it. In fact, I haven't banned anyone for months! Don't jump to conclusions so fast. Maybe I've moved your thread to another (the new) forum category. confused

Saludos, MadridMan

UPDATE: I just checked your previous record and no, Ignacio, I didn't ban you. You still have access to the board. But I did, as you recall, RESPECTFULLY ask you to find other forums in which to participate because you were upsetting MANY of our regular members. That's all there is to it. It's really that simple. There are many many forums on the internet. Please find one that suits you. Thank you.

Also Ignacio, each person is only allowed one username so your newest one will be removed today.
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#64243 - 03/17/04 05:33 PM Re: An apology to Spaniards
Wolf Offline
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Registered: 01/25/01
Posts: 1235
Loc: Rockford, IL/Milton, WI, USA
Let's hope the pain of 3-11 heals, and the new government of Spain finds its place in the sun, and that place includes a warm relationship with the US.

I won't apologize to our Spanish friends because I can't do that for the next person, but I will say I wasn't pleased with the way many Americans acted in response to the elections held last Sunday. Somewhere along the way they lost sight of the very essence of what America stands for, the right to self-determination at the ballot box, and it's nobody's place to indict them for their decisions.

To MadridMan, all I can say is that you did a tremendous job keeping things in perspective, and not doing anything that was unfair to anyone. To be honest, I don't know how many of us could have reacted as fairly as you did during the crisis.

To my Spanish friends, I don't want to see any of you leave the board. We may fight and squabble at times like children, but that's because we all care about issues, and each other. It would be a cold world if we just posted, and didn't have emotions that go with them. Personally, in a cold world like that, I think al Qaeda would win. But they will not win here.

Wolf

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#64244 - 03/17/04 06:08 PM Re: An apology to Spaniards
Pat Burger Offline
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Registered: 03/16/04
Posts: 6
Loc: Dayton, OH, USA
You are wrong; in Spain, Al Qaeda has won.

Madrid Man, you have been something less than an impartial moderator. If unkind words were thrown at the Spanish here, sometimes people need a kick in the behind. After all, the new Spanish PM first words upon victory were mainly directed at Americans, and they weren't kind or respectful (he used the word "lies" referring to President Bush more than once). Since he has gone well out of way to establish a poisonous relationship with America from the very start, we're hitting back.

Europeans should remember that it's a two-way street; you can divorce America but we can also divorce you.

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#64245 - 03/17/04 07:17 PM Re: An apology to Spaniards
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Registered: 05/06/00
Posts: 9080
Loc: Madrid, Spain (was Columbus, O...
Wolf, thanks for your support. Really, I'm just about reached my limit with this headache.

So anyway, back to the topic at hand, I once again personally apologize to all the Spaniards who may be staying away from our forum because they may be feeling threatened or attacked. I really can't blame you. These last few days the message board has NOT been a warm-and-fuzzy place.

I imagine all this will blow over in a short period of time and we can get back to normal discussing the things we love so much about Spain.

Once again, I'm sorry you've been treated this way.

Sincerely, MadridMan
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#64246 - 03/17/04 07:24 PM Re: An apology to Spaniards
Anonymous
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MM, after your letter, where you (truly) respectfully told me to leave, I tried to log in to your message board with my old user and password, and couldn't.

I don't think it's a coincidence.
I don't think you didn't know anothing about this.
Anyway, it's a shame that pressures from intolerant people who can't accept different points of view, and who start continuously annoying threads only looking for quarrel can make you tell any honest, well-behavoured member to go.

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