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#61942 - 05/05/02 01:04 AM Re: Romantic Interlude!
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That's GREAT advice, roses. Thanks for stating so clearly what many people experience when they go abroad, be it for vacation or to study.
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#61943 - 05/05/02 04:52 PM Re: Romantic Interlude!
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Roses
What an awful experience to have!All men are not the same!Most English definately arent.

It must be said though that women (generally)are experts in manipulating men for their own gain.

I work with women who converse with me like i`m a female and sometimes i`m amazed at the things they say and do! That said,when i go out with mates the conversation is remarkably similar,but more laddish,However,i do think that women deserve more respect.The fabulous way that a job,child,home and husband are all handled at once says everything.Any man who tries this will agree that it is no easy task.

What a shame these people who target women for a Quick good time cant respect that! wink

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#61944 - 05/05/02 05:09 PM Re: Romantic Interlude!
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Well Spike, I wouldn't say it was an awful experience, it was just an experience. My summer love taught me a lot and I even had my Italian stallion come and stay with me for a few weeks in Los Angeles, and that's where I realized that my dream of a perfect man was nothing more than what it was: a summer love that should have been left in Italy. If everything was always so perfect, then life would become boring. I think that this experience has taught me how to look at the dating game in a broader perspective. There are less rules and it's almost impossible to know your opponents next move. It taught me how not to assume and learn to take things for face value. I also think that women have learned how to manipulate the dating process to eliminate the rotten eggs in the bunch. In fact, some women have learned the way that men work. Phone calls are not returned right away, so the women doesn't appear desperate or to be chasing a man (as men find that to be a quality of a women who is insecure and/or desperate). Dating more than one person is a way to prevent women from getting so attached when the other person doesn't feel the same way. Not all people are not the same, but there are definitely characteristics that are passed down from father to son, brother to brother, and friend to friend. The nice guys are indeed hard to find. But then again, it's not like diamonds are laying on the streets for everyone to pick up. Anything worth anything is always hard to come by.

roses

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#61945 - 05/05/02 07:46 PM Re: Romantic Interlude!
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WOW!Roses
It always amazes me the way that some people will always find a positive from a negative.
As long as the experience has a happy ending and you are wiser for it,then its a worthwhile part of life to be remembered.
Iam sure that the experience has helped shape your opinion of guys(rightly or wrongly)

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#61946 - 05/05/02 11:27 PM Re: Romantic Interlude!
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Uh hummmm..(clear throat) I don't like to brag, but um..I swept a spanish girl off her feet too you know. We've now been married for a year and a half and we have a beautiful 5 month baby girl as proof of the my sweeping abilities.
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#61947 - 05/06/02 06:59 AM Re: Romantic Interlude!
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hmmm,
Well, I don't like to brag but I GOT swept of my feet by an Italian stallion and whatever his intentions were at the outset of us meeting and.... laugh well, it's been nine years since of being wined and dined with the most humble of pasta dishes which still wow's me. Proof I guess of my alluring abilities!! who got who smittened here! haha ha.

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#61948 - 05/06/02 12:08 PM Re: Romantic Interlude!
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well spike, for me it wasn't negative. i don't think i said negative. it was just a dramatic experience. negative or positive, i learned from it. if all in life were perfect, we'd all be nieve and uneducated.

roses.

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#61949 - 05/06/02 03:31 PM Re: Romantic Interlude!
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Roses
Youre right,you didn`t say it was a negative experience.Perhaps I`m not naive but possibly still(slightly?)uneducated.

spike
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#61950 - 05/06/02 06:52 PM Re: Romantic Interlude!
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wink spike: as we are always learning something new, that makes us all (slightly uneducated)? I think... oh, who knows. roses.

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#61951 - 03/04/03 09:51 PM Re: Romantic Interlude!
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Loc: Ames, Iowa, USA
Another gem from The Onion on the difference between America and Europe (for our European friends, or any Americans who have been living under a rock for the past year, The Onion is SATIRE--it's not serious!):

Why Can't We Live In Enlightened Topless Europe?

By Kyle Delsman
I realize that speaking out in favor of Europe is not a wise thing to do these days, but I must give credit where credit is due. My tour of Europe last summer opened my eyes to a rich culture where people place a premium on conversations about philosophy and ideas rather than last night's episode of Friends. Food is prepared and savored, not popped in the microwave and inhaled. And women are free to expose their breasts, not forced to hide them behind layers of constricting fabric. Why, oh, why, can't we live in enlightened topless Europe?

The United States is so backwards and repressed. Americans don't value the arts nearly as much as Europeans. Here in America, artists struggle to make ends meet. In Europe, artists have patrons in the government. Painters and sculptors are free to create as many works of art with the breast as they wish. Or they may choose not to include breasts in their art. But even when they don't, they know that breasts are an accepted and encouraged option.

Unlike us philistines, Europeans appreciate beauty and aesthetics, and incorporate them into everyday life. Instead of soulless edifices of concrete and steel, European buildings are beautifully crafted with intricate Old World ornamentation. Instead of garish, fluorescent-lit food courts, Europeans gather in magnificent open-air plazas. And instead of breasts crushed by shape-obscuring bras, Europeans routinely enjoy the sight of pert young breasts, presented with their graceful curves fully intact. In the piazzas of Italy, the fountains are rich with statues where pointy little breasts are left exposed for anyone to see and appreciate. Bellissimo!

Breasts in Europe aren't just exposed—they're celebrated. In London, for example, the newspapers feature a "Page Three" girl who poses with her top off. What do we have on the third page of our nation's so-called "paper of record," The New York Times? News. What is wrong with this country that some explosion or election somewhere is more important than the beauty of the female form?

Nowhere are Americans more repressed than in matters of health. We sunbathe modestly, take unisex saunas, and cover our torsos everywhere but in the privacy of our own homes. The French don't hesitate to maximize their intake of vitamin D from the sun by doffing their bikini tops whenever possible. In the spas of Austria, patrons not only go topless, but bottomless, as well. Would you ever see a fully naked young woman in a YWCA in Atlanta or Chicago? Of course not. We Americans simply wouldn't be able to handle such a shocking sight.

The U.S. government doesn't do anything to help foster a social climate in which breasts can flourish. In fact, they do just the opposite. Breasts are often declared "lewd" or "indecent," and those who express themselves with pure hearts and open brassieres are ticketed and fined. In Europe, breasts are free to express themselves and interact with the world.

Now, assuming I am someone who enjoys the glorious sight of naked breasts (which I am), how can I see them in America? My only options are to frequent sleazy gentlemen's clubs or buy pornographic magazines. This is exactly what's wrong with America. When you repress the breast, you turn it into a dirty thing. You take something lovely and natural, and pervert it into something impure. That's what our country has done.

I still hold out hope for us. Most Americans, after all, still have traces of European blood coursing through their veins. Their ancestors came from France, from Germany, from Italy—places where they have naked breasts on the cover of mainstream magazines. Somewhere, buried deep within our DNA, is the potential to break free from our self-imposed, mammary-despising shackles. We must tap into these long-dormant European genes and unleash the wellspring of enlightenment. Only then will we live in a truly enlightened—and topless—United States of America.

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