Well, for long I have watched this topic no wanting to post because of the flames that could be ignited, but the post that filbert has quoted is TOO MUCH.
I hate the wave of racism that is taking over Madrid.

I'm with deibid and filbert.

I much prefer a latinamerican than other inmigrants. There are hundreds of thousands equatorians in Spain, and the vast majority of them just come here to work and earn enough money for their families.

The comment regarding the height or the color of the skin of mexicans is out of place (and borders racism and xenophobia). Being from one origin or other doesn't make you commit crimes.

Fernando

This is a forum of OPINIONS...and as such, I am unswayed by the comments of "racism"...those are already typical and most Spaniards (in private) or in a bar, say the same thing I am saying. Madrid has TOO many immigrants...and that is NOT my "theory"...it was the opinion, as reported by the EL MUNDO and other newspapers, of nearly 35% of Spaniards. Yes, there are thousands of Ecuadorians...(and many of them are unemployed and turn to crime in the metro...as you can ask any of the tourists who get robbed...many who are saavy report the nationality of the thief as Latin American).

Racism? Por favor...

So you hate the racism in Madrid? We Madrileños hate the rise of crime due to immigration and open border policies. Fernando, do not lecture me, please. I am stating my opinions (as you are also doing)...but I don't recall asking for a nanny or patrol. You say that "being from one origin" does not make you a criminal...when did I say this? I said, and I thought it was very clear, but I will say it in different terms:

the ONES WE HAVE IN MADRID are usually the ONES NOBODY WANTS (i.e. in more serious European countries with stricter immigration policy, they are expelled, and they are not wanted in their countries either). Yes, there are many working in bars...unfortunately for the Spaniards since our salaries have gone down because of it (I have family who own a bar so I know what I am talking about...even though they dont hire foreigners or sin papeles).

Construction? yes, and again, the quality of work has gone down...as it has gone down in bars.

But everyone is free to have an opinion...and I certainly will not let comments like "that is racist"...get passed me without a response. Think before you write.

As for Moroccans, if what you people meant was: "yes, latin americans are favoured over the Moroccans", absolutely...but I could do without either...and one post admitted that there were others with my opinions. Also, most of you are NOT from Madrid...so please do not presume to speak of a city that is not yours.

Esta va para Fernando:

Fernando, si crees que mis comentarios son fuertes...te ruego que leas el periódico ¡QUÉ! de hoy...edición de hoy...lo tienen en muchos sitios...y lee lo de las mafias...de colombianos, peruanos, etc...tiene una PÁGINA ENTERA dedicada al tema.

Yo soy de Madrid de toda la vida...y me dá asco lo que veo en mi ciudad...no sé si tu eres de Madrid o conoces el de antes...pero este no tiene nada que ver...y a mi que nadie me venga con cuentos...porque hasta mi padre es Madrileño...cosa que es muy rara.

This is an english speaking topic, and Que! is a horrible "newspaper", mostly sensationalist and worthless.
And we all THINK before we post.

Oh! I almost forgot... you are RACIST, face it.

ooooohhh I am racist...do you have the handcuffs ready? are you ready to detain me? Oh and I do not know where you come from but if you are from England or USA...you are talking about racism? such hypocrisy is incredible, considering both countries have historically been the true racist countries...not Spain.

and I suggested QUÉ for today's topic...but there are PLENTY of articles in serious newspapers like ABC and EL MUNDO.

Here I post some links for you:

www.el-mundo.es/papel/2004/03/10/espana/

(it is an article that you must pay for but it states: El 60% de los españoles considera que hay demasiados inmigrantes.

Casi un 30% de los jóvenes europeos cree que hay“demasiados” inmigrantes, según un sondeo de la ComisiónEuropea. (El Mundo, 9 de Noviembre)

Barómetro: 56,8% de los andaluces piensa que la inmigración es "negativa" y 68,6% que hay "demasiados" inmigrantes
(link: www.elistas.net/lista/andalucialibre/archivo/indice/151/msg/193/) I remind you that it is a socialist left wing site.

So how about you start looking at the facts, since you are a foreigner and do not know about our country, before you opine?

Extranjero yo?? look at the profiles,man!
Yes, it's a fact that most people think that there are too many inmigrants.
But what people thinks does not make a FACT by itself.
In Spain there are less inmigrants than in France or England. The problem is the rate of their growth, but they are necessary for our economy.
You don't need handcluffs unless you commit any crime, being racist like you are is not a crime. It's despicable, but not a crime.

I must interject here and now.

deibid, we don't allow this type of name-calling. Please be careful. Capitalino is stating his own opinion and that which he feels is a common opinion amongst people he knows. It is MY opinion that we're all racist AND hypocrites to some degree or another - whether we admit it or not. We shouldn't start building the fires for others until we look into ourselves first.

No name calling by anyone, please.

Let's try to stay on the original topic:

Saludos, MadridMan

I knew it! Well, I quit. It was better when I kept out of this topic.
My apologies to anyone offended, and I still hate the wave of racism that is taking over Madrid.
That's not name calling, is it?

No, deibid, that's not name calling. And racism is DEFINITELY NOT A GOOD THING. We all know it's NOT a good thing - I'm not saying it is - even racists themselves probably know it's not a good thing. But attacking people whom we believe to be racists doesn't solve the problem nor lessen the influence of racism. It might bring about awareness, yes, but calling/labeling someone a racist is not constructive criticism.

Now, let's get back to that original topic, please. Thank you.

Saludos, MadridMan