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#52640 - 07/04/02 02:38 PM
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barry: Couldn't agree with you more. Many, many people (straight and gay) think these events only showcase the extremes. In many ways, yes, the drag queens and leather crews are the most visible. If one were to look deeper, though, they'd realize that to many people the celebrations still represent the continued fight for equality, liberty, and respect - to be proud of one's self, and not ashamed.
Besides, having a good time is healthy!
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#52641 - 07/04/02 08:38 PM
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Eli,
I don't ever see myself exchange vows with another man in a ceremony. That's just not me at all. I don't even want to live with my better half, if I ever find one. I value my personal space highly and don't want anyone to interfere with that at this point in my life. I am on a mission in life right now, one which does not allow me to be sidetracked by falling in love and making a life with someone else. If that means that I will be alone for the rest of my life, well so be it. I want to realize my dreams and aspirations in life first before beginning a relationship. I refuse to give into the way society says that we need to be in a relationship with someone.
As far as marriage being legal, it's not my cup of tea at all and I REFUSE to do it. If other people want to, let them. I won't try to stop any gay couple from getting married at all. I just don't want to spend the rest of my life with someone in that way. I just don't believe that marriage is the ultimate way to show your love for someone.
Hope that answers your question and if you have more, please don't hesitate to ask.
Shawn
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#52642 - 07/05/02 09:44 AM
Re: Madrid:Gay parade/Chueca 'barrio'
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JJP, your following comment "... predicting that Spain will afford equal rights to gays before the United States. Most nations in the EU already extend immigration benefits to same-sex relationships. Many Americans ... look to Europe and the UK with a mixture of envy and inspiration" is so true. And I think this applies to all facets of life, not just the gay rights issues. Europe, in general, is far more open-minded and tolerant socially than the U.S. despite enclaves of strong liberalism in this country.
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#52643 - 07/05/02 12:19 PM
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Europe, in general, is far more open-minded and tolerant socially than the U.S. Unfortunately, this is very true.
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#52644 - 07/05/02 04:34 PM
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Unfortunately for who??!! Only joking. I gather you mean for US citizens. Anyway, good luck catching up. I'm looking forward to our first Madridman board gay wedding. If I ever get round to it, you're all invited. I'll post the Hermes wedding list...
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#52645 - 07/05/02 05:54 PM
Re: Madrid:Gay parade/Chueca 'barrio'
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Why a gay pride parade? Why don't they have "straight pride" parades? Because EVERYDAY is straight pride day. We constantly see heterosexuals kissing and holding hands in public, on TV, movies, etc. Gay pride parades are an opportunity for a sexual minority to have their voice in a world that doesn't always welcome it.
Siento que este asunto no tenga nada que ver con Madrid
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#52646 - 07/10/02 05:39 PM
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To all of those who want to say that this post doesn't have anything to do with Madrid, go back and read the first post and you will see that it does have everything to do with Spain.
Homosexuality is everywhere and if it's a subject that you're not comfortable talking about, please don't participate in the forum.
Thanks,
Shawn
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#52647 - 07/10/02 08:17 PM
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It's my understanding most participants on this thread have been quite open-minded. The only negative remarks have been in regards to the "extremes" of Pride.
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#52648 - 07/11/02 08:47 AM
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Barry, I totally agree that gay people are treated unfairly and as second class citizens. One of my friends is too ashamed to tell his family and friends about his homosexuality, because he is afraid of how they would react. I don't believe there should be any need to feel afraid, because I say that it is LOVE that is a natural thing and whether it be between two members of the same or opposite sex, it is a beautiful thing. I stand by my feelings about gay pride day, but maybe that's because I'm orig. from a quiet village and know no different than subtlety. However, I would not rule out attending a parade in the future, after all I should really find out what its all about. If it attracts so many people.....
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