> Dear Sir:

> > > Pleased read the following letters, till now I dont know WHAT the spain bank-INTERNATIOANAL OFFSHORE TRUST BANK is, my award winning ,700000.00 EUOS is true or false, from the MADRID BRANCH DIRECTOR ,DR. MATILDA WILLIAMS 'S LETTERS, IT SEEMS A TRUE,BUT WHY.... , I CAN'T GET THE PRIZE.
> > > A retired chinese teacher
> > Feng Xiaoming
> Tel:0086 0551 3643708
> No.275 Wangjiangdong Road
> Hefei, China
> >
> >
> > INTERNATIONAL OFFSHORE TRUST BANK
> > > >
> > > > N.I.F. 189067329YI
> > > >
> > > > PASEO DELA CASTELLA 330,
> > > >
> > > > MADRID,SPAIN
> > > > ATTN:Feng Xiaoming ,
> > > > We the entire members of staff of The INTERNATIONAL OFFSHORE TRUST BANK
> > > congratulate you on your award winning and we thank you very much for you
> > > enquiry.We would like to inform you that your payment is ready.
> > > > To begin with the claims of your prize money, we would like to inform you
> > > that we have 4 options.Kindly go through them and inform us of the option
> > > that most suit you.
> > > > These are the options :
> > > > 1.Open and activate a lottery account with us.Login to our website
> > > www.internationaloffshoretrust.com and then click on "apply now ".
> > > > Note: To activate your account is €3,000 euros.(THREE THOUSAND EUROS)This
> > > fee is non-deductable from the award prize.
> > > > 2.Send us your account details for us to transfer your funds to you and
> > > kindly include your telephone and fax numbers so that we can inform you when
> > > transfer procedure has been completed.The cost of transfer is €2,671
> > > euros(TWO THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND SEVENTY ONE EUROS).This fee is
> > > non-deductable from the award prize.
> > > >
> > > > 3.Receive your cheque by post.Send us the complete address where you
> > > intend to receive your cheque and the cost of postage will be paid by you.It
> > > is obligatory that you insure your check against lost,theft and damage.The
> > > cost of postage including insurance is €1,321 euros.(ONE THOUSAND THREE
> > > HUNDRED AND TWENTY ONE EUROS) This fee is non-deductable from the award
> > > prize.
> > > > 4.Come down personally to claim your award.You are to come with your
> > > international passport, two passport photographs and €4,800 euros (EIGHT
> > > THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED EUROS)for the processing of the award documents.This
> > > fee is non-deductable from the award prize.
> > > > NOTE:Due to the irrevocable insurance policy on the award and the
> > > rules and regulations covering the award program,neither deductions from
> > > prize money nor payment after receipt of money is accepted by us.We would
> > > like you to acknowlege that this award is legal and is real so we urge you
> > > to claim your prize as soon as possible for we are stopping payment soonest
> > > and all unclaimed funds will be returned to The MINISTERIO DE HACIENDA as
> > > unclaimed funds.
> > > > We do hope we have rightly informed you.Hoping to hear from you
> > > soonest.............
> > > > Dr. Matilda Williams
> > > >
> > > > Office of the Branch Director
> > > >
> > > > International Offshore Trust
> > > >
> > > > www.internationaloffshoretrust.com
> > > >
> > > > Mail:matil@internationaloffshoretrust.com
> > > >
> > > > Efax: +14-197-814-451
> > > >
> > > > TEL : +34 666 317 796
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Vanessa Abril" <abril@mercedes-benz-promotions.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: <abril@mercedes-benz-promotions.com>
> > > > >To: <kingofchn@hotmail.com>
> > > > >Subject: PRIZE CLAIMS
> > > > >Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:29:35 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS
> > > > >GRANDE LOTTERIA,MADRID
> > > > >
> > > > >Dear Feng Xiaoming ,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Congratulations we have concluded the processing and legalisation of your
> > > lottery winning payments &#8364;705,366,87 euros and your file has been forwarded
> > > to the affiliate financial institution who will effect the transfer of your
> > > winnings prize into your nominated bank account in your country.
> > > > >
> > > > >Your prize claim certificate has also been approved by the NATIONAL
> > > > >LOTTO COMMISSION,the original will be sent to you through courier service
> > > upon the completion of the remitance of your funds.
> > > > >
> > > > >You are hereby advised to contact the bank urgently so that they can
> > > immedately begin the transfer of your funds.
> > > > >
> > > > >Be informed that you must receive your prize money in the exact sum that
> > > you won and so we have your funds under an irrevocable comprehensive
> > > insurance bond covering to the full amount &#8364;705,366,87 euros and its placed
> > > in a suspense account with them thereby making it impossible for any
> > > deductions or misappropiation of funds until you the actual owner recieves
> > > same This is in accordance with article 44 Subsections 144 of the spanish
> > > Lottery Commissions Gaming Regulations as amended in the 1996 Constitution.
> > > > >This is to protect the interest of the winners and to avoid
> > > misappropriation of funds
> > > > >
> > > > >The contact information of the bank is as follows:
> > > > >
> > > > >CONTACT PERSON : DR. MATILDA WILLIAMS (Branch Director Madrid-Spain )
> > > > >NAME OF BANK : INTERNATIONAL OFFSHORE TRUST BANK
> > > > >TEL: 0034 666 317 796
> > > > >FAX: 0034 655 373 966
> > > > >EMAIL: matil@internationaloffshoretrust.com
> > > > >WEBSITE:www.internationaloffshoretrust.com
> >
> > > > >| | | | | &#25910;&#20214;&#31665; Dear Dr. Matilda Williams:
> > > > I am glad to receive your letter for my award winning . Now I have learn
> > > my prize is deposited at your bank.I have read your 4 options and I hope to
> > > get your help.
> > > > 1. please your bank sign up a mortgage contract ,which thing mortgaged is
> > > all award document.
> > > > 2.In mortgage contract ,I will entrust your bank as my deposiitory bank
> > > for handling my award winning prize.
> > > > with best wishes .
> > > > yours faithfully
> > > > Feng Xiaoming
> >
> >
> > > Dear Feng Xioming,
> > >
> > > That sounds like a scam. I would recommend that you not send any money
> > > without more information and guarantees, and that you forward your
> > > correspondence with the bank to the proper authorities where you live.
> > >
> > > Best of luck,
> > > Editorial Dept.
> > > CDSN
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: kingofchn <kingofchn@126.com>
> > > To: <editorial2@costadelsolnews.es>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 4:09 PM
> > > Subject: where is my winning adward
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dear Editor; The falling cake from internet
> > > > Please kindly read these letters ,is my winning award false or true ,it
> > > is prize by your spain's bank - INTERNATIONAL OFFSHORE TRUST BANK AND MADRID
> > > BRANCH DIRECTOR , DR.,MATILDA WILLIAMS,till now, I don't know.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear ambassador:
> > > > I am a Chinese teacher Feng Xiaoming ,living in Hefei Anhui China, in June
> > > ,I get a lottery prize, the prize is now depositzed in Spain International
> > > offshore Trust Bank -Madrid Branch , I have opened a account for lottery
> > > adward winning . Now the bank require I should pay 3000euos for activated
> > > the account ,Because I am a retried teacher and haven't any $EUOS,Pleased
> > > help me and contact with the bank for getting the money . addition with the
> > > bank's director matilda Williams 's letters with me as ref.
> > > > the bank website ;www.internationaloffshoretrust.com
> > > > my telephone number :05513643708 (Hefei) Chinese
> > > Citizen
> > > > Feng Xiaoming
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Feng Xiaoming,
> > > > It is in your best interest to claim your award money within 48 hours
> > > or
> > > > your file will be closed.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Dr. Matilda Williams
> > > > Office of the Branch Director
> > > > International Offshore Trust
> > > > www.internationaloffshoretrust.com
> > > > Mail:matil@internationaloffshoretrust.com
> > > > Efax: +14-197-814-451
> > > > Fax :+34 655 373 966
> > > > TEL : +34 666 317 796
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Feng Xiaoming,
> > > > Thank you for opening account with us we assure you that you will enjoy
> > > our
> > > > services.You will need to activate your account immediately with the
> > > minimum
> > > > sum of &#8364;3,000 euros before we can pay in your money into your account.The
> > > sum
> > > > is not deductable from the award prize money.Let us know when you intend
> > > to
> > > > send the money for actvating your account and we will inform you on best
> > > to do
> > > > it.
> > > >again more details:
> > Dear Matilda Williams:
> > I have read your letter (30. June), I found that you have mistake my meaning . I don't think that you should make deductions from the award winnings.
> > I wish to get your mortgage loan from your bank by mortgaged the award winnings for paying the award winning'fees (3000+2671+1321+4800euos). After I get the award winnings ,I will refund all fees for award winning and your commissions .Because I never see all official document about the award winnings ,and I am lagal and honest chinese citizen,I don't sure the prize is true or false .
> > With best wishes .
> > Yours Faithfully
> > Feng Xiaoming
> >
> >
> > >From: "Matilda Williams" <matil@internationaloffshoretrust.com>
> > >Reply-To: <matil@internationaloffshoretrust.com>
> > >To: <kingofchn@hotmail.com>
> > >Subject: RE: PRIZE CLAIMS
> > >Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 08:49:17 -0400
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Feng Xiaoming,
> > > > We must inform you that you will have to pay the charges,this you will pay
> > > > independently of your award winnings,we cannot make deductions.
> > > > This is due to the rules and regulations of the award program and the
> > > > irrevocable insurance policy on the award prize money that states that no
> > > one
> > > > can touch the money except you.So if you want us to transfer the money you
> > > will
> > > > need to pay the transfer cost as soon possible .Let us know when you
> > > intend to
> > > > make this paymnet so that we can inform you on how to do it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Dr. Matilda Williams
> > > > Office of the Branch Director
> > > > International Offshore Trust
> > > > www.internationaloffshoretrust.com
> > > > Mail:matil@internationaloffshoretrust.com
> > > > Efax: +14-197-814-451
> > > > Fax :+34 655 373 966
> > > > TEL : +34 666 317 796
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > | | | | | &#25910;&#20214;&#31665; Dear Dr. Matilda Williams:
> > > > I am glad to receive your letter for my award winning . Now I have learn
> > > my prize is deposited at your bank.I have read your 4 options and I hope to
> > > get your help.
> > > > 1. please your bank sign up a mortgage contract ,which thing mortgaged is
> > > all award document.
> > > > 2.In mortgage contract ,I will entrust your bank as my deposiitory bank
> > > for handling my award winning prize.
> > > > with best wishes .
> > > > yours faithfully
> > > > Feng Xiaoming
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>

Goodgrief - complete scam -

DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY!!!!!

Winning money, including lotteries, does not require paying ANYTHING - at any time - including the "activation" of an account.

A curse on all those who steal honest people's money.....

Fup

Be sure to check out the " Madrid: "Offshore international trust"- authenticity? " thread on the same topic. Good luck and please DON'T send money.

Saludos, MadridMan

???!!!! It really makes me furious that some people make a living out of stealing other people's lawfully earned money!

Without needing to read the whole e-mail exchange you've posted I've spotted:

PASEO DELA CASTELLA 330

That is not a valid Madrid address, Paseo de la Castellana 330, would be.

GRANDE LOTTERIA

Wrong again, in any case we'd say: Gran loteria.

Really, what a nerve!


Of course never heard of that bank either...

When I was growing up, my mum always used to say to me: "'nadie da nada por nada'", and it has stuck with me. Unfortunatelly it's true....about 99% of the time!

And as the other thread on this same exact topic (see link to that other thread in my posting above), the address of Paseo de la Castellana, 300 does not seem to even exist - according to QDQ.com. Finally, the phone numbers they list above are to CELL phones and NOT to land-based telephone lines. That alone is suspicious.

I've received a number of email questions about the validity of this "GRANDE LOTTERIA" and it always reminds me of that African bank-holdings scam where the "rightful owner" will give you 1/4 of the total if you give them your banking information to which the African bank will gladly, and without question, forward the cash to you. Sheeesh!

Saludos, MadridMan

1) Spanish lottery is NEVER claimed via such organizations.

2) The address doesn't exist (as Pim said it should be Paseo de la Castellana, 330, and as Madridman said that address doesn't exist at all).

3) Their telephone is a mobile phone.

4) It is not a reckoned financial organization in Spain.

5) A spanish financial entity wouldn't contact you by e-mail

6) You can't win a lottery in which you haven't played

7) Their fiscal number "N.I.F. 189067329YI" doesn't exist. Companies fiscal ID are called C.I.F. and not N.I.F. (which would be "Número de Identificación Fiscal", only for persons, not for companies).

8) International transfers' fee from or to spanish accounts are not higher than a hundred euros.

9) Spanish lottery does not require any fees to be claimed.

10) "Office of the Branch Director" would never be a job title, not even on multinationals.

11) Their efax number "+14-197-814-451" is not a valid spanish phone number. Their fax number "34 655 373 966" is a spanish mobile phone.

12) "GRANDE LOTTERIA" is not the name of spanish lottery, which would be "Lotería Nacional".

13) "This is in accordance with article 44 Subsections 144 of the spanish Lottery Commissions Gaming Regulations as amended in the 1996 Constitution"

Our Constitution was signed in 1978 and no amendments have been done so far. No reference is made to lottery, which is regulated by organical laws, not the Constitution.

It is clearly a fraud. If you sent money to them I suggest you to give the information to chinese police or go to www.policia.es which is an online "police station" of the spanish police. You may also forward all these e-mails to delitos.tecnologicos@policia.es which is the contact with the spanish police technological crimes unit. There are several ways in which those people could be caught: their false fax and phone numbers, their e-mail and their web site.

You should always delete such mails in the future (but keep the ones you have! they are a proof!).

Fernando

Dear Spainsh friends:
I was pleased to receive your reply, Your suggestions make me clear and I have to send these letters to spanish police station ,and hope to their reply as soon as possible for caught the
crimals. Thanks a lot.
with best wishes.
Feng Xiaoming

I really hope they got caught. It is incredible how cruel some people can be...

Don't loose hope, months ago a band was imprisoned in Spain for doing something similar. Our police is quite good, I'm sure they will catch the criminals.

Fernando

Dear Spanish friend :
I was pleased to receive your reply,but I found that the spanish police didn't open and read the letters sent by me last week, how i can do for let them to take note of the crime.
with best wishes.
your chinese friend
Feng Xiaoming

If you sent them an e-mail they will investigate it surely. Now, your best chance is to let chinese police know the facts so they can investigate too. Perhaps it could help to go to the nearest spanish consulate to let them know and to ask for information on what and how to do.

I'm not an expert on this, but that is what I would do if I were you: Ask spanish police (you did it already), chinese police and the spanish consulate.

Regards.

Fernando