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#37235 - 12/01/00 09:18 PM Hand over your passport, please.
MarkB Offline
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Registered: 11/29/00
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How common is the practice of hotels asking for one's passport (to keep) while staying with them?

Whenever I've confronted this in other countries (Scotland, Germany, etc.), I've refused. And every time, they've backed down.

Will that work in Spain? They've got my credit card # for security, they certainly don't need the most important document I possess. (I've actually got two, but am loathe to hand one over, even with a "back up.")

Thanks.

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#37236 - 12/01/00 09:36 PM Re: Hand over your passport, please.
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Hi MarkB! If you're worried about the safety/security of your passport (i.e. that they might sell it on the black market) you probably shouldn't. However, THERE IS a passport black market in Spain. I'm with you though. I'd never give my passport to a hotel, but know it is somewhat common for them to ask for it. Tell them you're going to some places during the day and need it for identification. OR, make a copy of the front, inside cover and give THEM the copy.

At least none of the hostels I stayed at in October asked for my passport. Well, actually, one did ask for it, but I told them I left it at my ladyfriend's house. Really, if you pay upfront I doubt you'll have a problem. Maybe it's for the hotels when you pay when you leave that they use the passport for their security that you'll actually return to pay in order to get it back.

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#37237 - 12/02/00 03:38 AM Re: Hand over your passport, please.
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Under the Franco regime, leaving your passport at the reception desk upon registering was routine. I believe it was required by the police. I never experienced any difficulty in getting it back after a day or two.
Cantabene

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#37238 - 12/02/00 09:10 AM Re: Hand over your passport, please.
rgf Offline
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Right, good ideas. Have a copy of the passport information, and/or offer to leave something else on deposit (a driver's license, etc). Probably your passport is VERY safe with the hostales folk, but it is unsettling to think of something so vital as out of your control for days at a time!

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#37239 - 12/02/00 12:22 PM Re: Hand over your passport, please.
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It is compulsory that hostels fill in a form for every customer they have. Then, we must take those forms to the police station.

I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF ANY PASSPORT BLACK MARKET AT HOSTELS.

What I heard is that some pickpockets steal passports from Japanese people and then they sell them to Chinese people who have entered illegally in Spain.

I don't keep my customer's passports but I always advise them to keep their passports in the room. But if someone thinks it's safer to take them to the street...

[This message has been edited by Antonio (edited 12-02-2000).]
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#37240 - 12/02/00 12:36 PM Re: Hand over your passport, please.
MarkB Offline
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No, I'm not really too worried about hostels selling/losing them, but I'm just generally uncomfortable with the idea of someone else being in control of a document so important to me.

I think I'll make a copy of my documents, and offer to leave my (expired) driver's license with them.

Thanks, folks.

(and thanks, Antonio, for your quick response to my inquiry re: a room next week)

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#37241 - 12/02/00 01:03 PM Re: Hand over your passport, please.
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Antonio, I DIDN'T SAY THERE WAS A PASSPORT BLACK MARKET WITH HOSTELS, I SAID THERE WAS A PASSPORT BLACK MARKET IN SPAIN! (deeep breath)

Passports are getting stolen all the time and I'd be careful to whom you gave them. Many illegals gain entry to Spain with false or stolen passports. It's not an epidemic, but it's a nuisance to be sure.

But yes, I think with hostels and even hotels are fine, but I'd rather either give them a copy with your photo and passport number than the original document. I think the Passport Number is what they really want (the hostels/hotels) to keep track of you and so you won't run off with no way of finding you.

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#37242 - 12/08/00 01:58 PM Re: Hand over your passport, please.
leuci Offline
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I'm surprised at the fuss over the handling over of passports--and that some places don't ask for them! Every single place I stayed at this trip, and they ranged from hostal-residencias to four-star hotels, asked for my passport. All they did was copy down the number, in my presence, onto their forms. As this has been the case on all six of my other visits to Spain, I've never given it a second thought. It's exactly the same in Argentina, so to me it seems normal.

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#37243 - 12/10/00 10:36 AM Re: Hand over your passport, please.
MarkB Offline
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Lueci, in my experience, I've had a couple of hostels want to actually *keep* them while I was there- no thanks. They can copy as much as they want out of my passport, just not keep it, as far as I'm concerned.

During my just completed trip, only one hotel wanted to keep it (Hotel Pasarela in Sevilla), but that's because I hadn't paid for the room (someone along the line screwed up in getting my Bancotel checks delivered there, but that's another post).

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#37244 - 12/10/00 10:56 AM Re: Hand over your passport, please.
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Yeah. I don't like this practice either. I believe it was at Hostal Dulcinea in October where they asked for my passport. But after explaining that it was in the house where I was staying during my 3-weeks in Madrid they decided it wasn't necessary afterall. OR, maybe because they knew who I was and why I was staying at their hostel. Either way, I believe it's true, some hostels do want you to leave your passport with them while you're staying there.

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#37245 - 12/11/00 12:25 PM Re: Hand over your passport, please.
Leche Offline
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My passport was stolen in Spain in Vallencia nearly 10 years ago. The vehicle was broken into and my bag was snatched (long story). A local shop owner nearby heard the smashing glass and came running out. Luckily, it was a tourist sword shop and the guy came out wielding a large don quixote sword! He later told us what had happened and that it was a group of morrocans who had done it.

Now I just know there is another ME walking around somewhere in the EU now!

Leche

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#37246 - 12/12/00 12:31 PM Re: Hand over your passport, please.
Nuria Offline
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I like the story with the guy and the sword. It is nice to know that in Spain we still have knights

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#37247 - 12/12/00 01:33 PM Re: Hand over your passport, please.
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Nuria - who said Don Quixote was 'make-believe'? Obviously he is alive and well in Barcelona - or was when this incident took place ... one of those "had to be seem to be believed" situations ....
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#37248 - 01/03/01 12:21 PM Re: Hand over your passport, please.
TyroneTheCat Offline
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Registered: 01/03/01
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Loc: Lititz, PA USA
It seems to me that I have always been asked to turn over a passport, and usually it will be either filled out on the spot as I wait in the lobby, or they will show me my room, copy the passport info down, then return it to me within a couple of minutes. I never remember being asked to leave it for the duration of my stay. How could travellers checks be exchanged if a hotel was holding the passport?

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#37249 - 01/22/01 08:18 AM Re: Hand over your passport, please.
Asterault Offline
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Registered: 01/22/01
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Loc: Gijón
Do not leave your passports with any business or hotel or hostel, they just need to see it and get the number.

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#37250 - 01/25/01 02:14 PM Re: Hand over your passport, please.
mclarke Offline
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Registered: 09/19/00
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Loc: Arlington, VA
The 3-weeks that I was travelling in the Southern part of Spain, some hostals owner asked for passport. I usually had a photocopy to show them and all the hostal owners who asked for it accepted a photocopy and later returned the photocopy to me.

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#37251 - 02/20/01 03:58 PM Re: Hand over your passport, please.
MATADOR Offline
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Registered: 11/02/00
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Loc: BOSTON
Regarding the passport question. The hotel will ask for the pasport upon entry. At all the places i have stayed in Madrid, Barcelona and Mallorca they have it back to me within a few minutes. The hotel should not hold on to it for more than thirty minutes(long enough for you to get settled with your room).

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#37252 - 10/24/01 07:32 AM Re: Hand over your passport, please.
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[originally posted by Cocuyo on 10-24-2001 12:10 AM...]

Hello everyone! I have to say that in my trip to Madrid last year, I stayed at Hostal Aliste,the owner asked me for my passport for ID purpose only and he returned it to me when he verified my identity rolleyes

[ 10-24-2001: Message edited by: MadridMan ]
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#37253 - 10/24/01 06:28 PM Re: Hand over your passport, please.
SuePycroft Offline
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Registered: 04/17/01
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Loc: United Kingdom
I have stayed in hotels and self-catering accommodation all over Spain. Everyone has asked for passports and usually keep them for 2 days, they say this is for police registration. At the timeshare complex we use, we are required to fill in a form giving details of our passport number, date of birth, country of birth and our arrival date and leaving date. This form is sent to the local police station to register us as a visitor to the area. To me this makes sense in case we run into any problems or have the misfortune to be involved in an accident. Regarding MM's comment about Hostal Dulcinea, we were asked to leave our passport with them, but it was returned a few days later.

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