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#2491 - 06/13/01 01:05 AM Double bed vs. Twin bed
dwest Offline
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We have been communicating with several hotels in Spain for the last three weeks, trying to book rooms. We have run into problems trying to get double beds. We have some hotels say they can give us a "double" room, but when we ask if it is a double bed, there seems to be confusion. Others tell us that they cannot guaranty a double bed, but then I see them listed somwhere else as having double beds available to book. I don't know if they have a different concept of double beds or what. Has anyone had any experience with this ? Thanks, Dave

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#2492 - 06/13/01 06:51 AM Re: Double bed vs. Twin bed
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Hehehee... I can see the wheels turning in the heads of Spaniards when you ask for a "double bed". Maybe they're thinking you're asking for bunk beds or one mattress on top of the other so you can almost reach the ceiling. heheheehe....

Historically (Spaniards, please correct me if I'm wrong), just like in the USA, couples (even married ones) slept in twin beds in the same bedroom. Often, this is considered a double, simply meaning that TWO people will be sharing one room. And they will usually offer to push together the two twin beds, thereby (they think), making it a "double" in our "American" minds. I know. It doesn't work that way, but I've encountered this in Spain too. wink

If you'd like one double bed in the room to share with your partner, ask for a "cama matrimonial" (CORRECTION: that's "cama de matrimonio") - you don't need to tell them the sex of the other person staying with you - and you should get the larger bed.

Any other comments/corrections on this topic? Looks like a very good question that many people encounter when making reservations in English.

Saludos, MadridMan

[ 06-13-2001: Message edited by: MadridMan ]
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#2493 - 06/13/01 10:16 AM Re: Double bed vs. Twin bed
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A double room normally means two twins (a triple means three twins...). In many hotels (usually in Paradors as well), you can request "cama de matrimonio" which is the traditional double/queen bed. These types of beds are usually scarce if available at all.

If the "share the bed" experience is vital to your travel, you'll just need to be a little more selective in your hotel choices (or bring two sleeping bags and zip 'em together on the floor...).
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#2494 - 06/13/01 10:27 AM Re: Double bed vs. Twin bed
SuePycroft Offline
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Registered: 04/17/01
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Loc: United Kingdom
Hi D, I know you are looking at hotels, but the hostal we stayed in had a double bed and a single. I realise that sleeping apart from your partner is not the norm. for us, but when the heat hits, you are grateful for a single bed, not waking up next to a sweating, (dare I say it,) body. Needless to say I chose the double to myself. ha ha. On a serious note though twin beds are the norm. in Spain as MM said and finding one may prove to be more difficult than you think.
Good hunting, Sue. laugh

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#2495 - 06/13/01 12:34 PM Re: Double bed vs. Twin bed
karenwishart Offline
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Without getting too detailed..I found pushing the twins together all over Europe was a great compromise.(Cozy in 1 of the 2 or restful to be on seperate matresses when eventually sleeping). If you like everything the hotel has to offer twins may add to the experience!!

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#2496 - 06/13/01 01:11 PM Re: Double bed vs. Twin bed
Wolf Offline
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Registered: 01/25/01
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Karen,

I think that's the easiest solution, unless the headboards are attached to the wall, but my guess is the "resourceful person" who has viagra with them won't mind the inconvenience of carrying a saw, hammer, pry bar, and a few nails along to make the conversion. laugh

Which reminds me of a friend of mine... just retired as the Chief of Police in a small city. He and his wife were finally going on a honeymoon after 34 years of marriage, and nothing longer than a week off at a time.

We were at a cocktail party when he told this Doctor friend of ours that they were taking a one year honeymoon, planning to travel all over the world.

"How good is that viagra?" He asked the doctor.

"It works." Doc replied. "Why?"

"Well... we are going to travel... it is a honeymoon... Can I get some?" The ex-cop asked.

"Sure. No problem." Doc said.

"Good! Give me three pills. I want a one year supply." The ex-cop said. eek

Wolf (Who nearly swallowed the toothpick with the olive when he heard it said.)

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#2497 - 06/13/01 05:34 PM Re: Double bed vs. Twin bed
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Never heard of this story about couples sleeping apart eek.

About the matter of rooms, I have to say that most hostales (I'd say all) would understand "a double room" (habitación doble) as a twin room.

If you want a double bed, you have to specifically request a cama de matrimonio. By the way, don't say "matrimonial", which amazingly is the word used by most foreigners (can any teacher of Spanish explain the reason? is it used in some other Spanish speaking countries?).

Most hostales / hoteles have twin rooms and it's more difficult to get a double one. For instance, we (at Hostal Chelo ) only have 1 double room (the rest of them are twins). Most people don't mind pushing the beds together (which makes it bigger than a cama de matrimonio) but if you find it really unacceptable, tell your hostal / hotel when booking.

[Please, note that we always to our best to book a room which meets all the preferences expressed in your reservation. However, you have to understand that there are people who come without a reservation. If they rent a double room for a few days, it may happen that we'll only have a twin when you arrive. Also, we'll change you to that room as soon as it's available.]

By the way, the new trend when building a new hotel is putting twin beds together. Thus, you're forced to always share the bed eek

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#2498 - 06/13/01 10:55 PM Re: Double bed vs. Twin bed
dwest Offline
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Registered: 05/31/01
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Loc: Nashville, Tennessee
Thanks to everyone for your helpful (and humorous) replies. I guess we will just have to book a "double" room and make the best of whatever we get.

Dave laugh

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#2499 - 06/14/01 03:32 PM Re: Double bed vs. Twin bed
Sofia Offline
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Registered: 05/28/00
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Loc: Seneca Falls, NY
[ 06-17-2001: Message edited by: Sofia ]

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#2500 - 06/14/01 04:01 PM Re: Double bed vs. Twin bed
MadridMan Offline


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confused Dear Señora Sofía (and others fluent in Spanish), please humor the struggling student:
Quote:
Only if you change matrimonio -> matrimonial can it follow cama. Otherwise, separate the two nouns with "de".

From the quote above, it seems that both are correct: "Cama de matrimonio" and "cama matrimonial". No? Although, Antonio did put his "Cama de Matrimonio" in italics for my benefit, I believe, so I would believe him.

Good topic for those of us trying to learn another language. Thanks for your patience!

Also, on the "double room" topic, as I said in my first follow-up in this thread:
Quote:
you don't need to tell them the sex of the other person staying with you - and you should get the larger bed.
... if you're (or anyone) is hoping to share that double bed with someone of the same sex, it's probably a good idea not to mention this on the phone or in the reservation. I suggest simply stating that two persons will be occupying the room and you request a cama de matrimonio. smile

Saludos, MadridMan
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