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#18094 - 10/01/00 01:37 PM hemingway in madrid?
hemingway Offline
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hi guys, does anybody know the place of hemingways's museum im madrid?

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#18095 - 10/01/00 03:38 PM Re: hemingway in madrid?
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I never heard of a Hemingway museum in Madrid. However, he used to go to Museo Chicote at Gran Vía, 10. I guess there might be something about him there.

Regards,

Antonio

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#18096 - 10/05/00 03:50 PM Re: hemingway in madrid?
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there's a bar right off of the plaza mayor whose doorway awning reads "hemmingway never came here." je je...

this is all i know about hemmingway in madrid!
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#18097 - 10/05/00 07:36 PM Re: hemingway in madrid?
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Actually the notice says "Hemingway never ate here".

Shawn, I've forgotten the reason why this sign is at the restaurant. Please, could you tell us?.

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#18098 - 10/05/00 08:04 PM Re: hemingway in madrid?
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The reason that sign, Hemingway never ate here, is posted at El Cuchi is because the next door Botin IS a place Hemingway ate, and people go to Botin because of it...

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#18099 - 10/05/00 09:13 PM Re: hemingway in madrid?
Shawn Offline
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Antonio, rgf is correct. Hemingway had a special passion for Spain. His works on Spain are must reads.

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#18100 - 10/06/00 07:12 AM Re: hemingway in madrid?
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antonio,
hemingway had a very deep passion for spain. he actually owned a flat in madird and had a house in malaga. four of his most famous books are set in the country. he wrote "for whom the bell tolls" as a semi-autobiographical account of some of his experiences as a correspondant with the republicans during the civil war. both "death in the afternoon" and "dangerous summer" are detailed books about bullfighting. the sun also rises is the novel that made the fiesta de san fermin famous to non-spaniards. all of these books have prominent sections in which he talks about madrid.
the connection to the casa botin comes from "the sun also rises" and "death in the afternoon." in both novels there are scenes where the characters are eating cochinillo there. one of his short stories,"a clean well-lighted place", was actually written at botin. this is the reason for the "hemingway never ate here" sign over el cuchi. it is a little sarcastic message to the tourists. oddly i know all of this info and i'm actually not a fan of hemingway's writing. but, as they are about spain i just had to read them. its always inportant to read the works of others who have such a deep passion for the country.

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#18101 - 10/06/00 12:48 PM Re: hemingway in madrid?
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in defence of that saucey antonio, i think
he probably knows about hemingway's works and how they tie into spain... antonio knows a lot, don't kid yourself! but i think antonio was asking about that particular restaurant and why it states "hemingway never ATE here."

hemingway's works are truly splendid! i especially like for whom the bell tolls... i think i certainly would have been one of those that went to spain to fight fascism...

nice thread going here...

pd> antonio, "saucey" is not an insult, please don't take it that way...

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#18102 - 10/06/00 01:59 PM Re: hemingway in madrid?
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I wonder how many of us first fell in love with Spain when we read For Whom the Bell Tolls? Agree with you, Real_Megia, I too would have been with the International Brigade fighting fascism ... talk about impressionable kids! I really do think
Hemmingway turned a couple of generations on to the beauty of Spain.

The professors/teachers in the group will probably get a kick out of where this thread is headed.

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#18103 - 10/06/00 02:49 PM Re: hemingway in madrid?
steveaqui Offline
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Registered: 09/01/00
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Loc: Inglaterra
In the Plaza de Santa Ana is the
Cerveceria Alemana a place where Hemingway went.

As for the sign: Hemingway never drank/came here.

I have always taken this as an inverted joke against the American trail in Madrid.

p.s. I also am a fan of Hemingway, especially: 'FOR Whom the Bell Tolls' but also 'Fiesta' and more so for his nobel prize piece of literature.



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