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#16384 - 01/25/06 05:18 AM Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
Torrales Offline
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On Sunday, February 5th 2006, the new Barajas terminal T4 (and its satellite T4S) will start to operate. It is a brand big new terminal (more than a kilometre long) that is located separated and far North of the current three terminals (T1, T2 and T3). The building was designed and built by Richard Rogers and Antonio Lamela.

The companies that will operate from that terminal are, mainly, Iberia and all their partners in the OneWorld alliance (American Airlines, British Airways, FinnAir,...). These companies will move all their operations there effective 5 Feb. Additionally, some other non affilliated airlines will move there too, like Vueling, Air Nostrum, Aeroflot, SN Brussels,...

As this terminal is much far from Madrid downtown than the other three, be aware that you should expect longer transfer times from and to there. Moreover, the public transportation options are, right now, more limited than those to the current terminals.

Public transportation means to/from T4:
- Taxi (of course)
- New EMT bus line 204, from Avenida de America to T4 (express)
- New bus line for Metro ticket holders that will connect the Airport Metro station (located between T2 and T3) to T4. (For free, AFAIK).
- There will NOT be Metro connection to T4 by now. The opening of the line 8 extension is expected at the end of 2007.
- There will NOT be Cercanias connection to T4 by now. The opening of a new line Chamartin-T4 is expected by 2008.

Public transportation means between terminals:
- There will be free Airport shuttle buses that will connect T1, T2, T3 and T4.

As a reminder, these are the public transportation options available for T1, T2 and T3:
- EMT bus line 101 from Canillejas
- EMT bus line 200 from Avenida de America
- Interurban bus line 822 from Coslada
- Metro line 8 (station Aeropuerto)

Hope this helps.

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#16385 - 01/26/06 08:11 AM Re: Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
Torrales Offline
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The summary is what I have explained above, but this is the Official Barajas Webpage that explains all the movement. Dual version English/Spanish.

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#16386 - 01/26/06 02:20 PM Re: Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
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Thanks Torrales - this is useful information.
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#16387 - 01/27/06 05:10 AM Re: Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
Torrales Offline
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You're welcome.

Apart of the above, I don't think many people use them, but...

Effective Feb 5, the Iberia check-in counters located in both Nuevos Ministerios Metro station and IFEMA (Madrid Fairgrounds) will no longer operate.

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#16388 - 01/28/06 02:57 PM Re: Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
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Here is some additional information taken from the British Airways website:
Useful Madrid Terminal 4 Information.

Madrid Terminal 4 has the following configuration scheme:

The Main building is called T4.
The Satellite building is called T4S.

Check in for every flight departing from T4 and T4S, will be done at T4.
Passengers moving between T4 and T4S will do so by an automatic train service.
Train journey times between T4 & T4S will be 3 minutes.
Frequency of trains between T4 & T4S is every 3 minutes.
The baggage claim area for all flights arriving to T4 & T4S will be in T4.
T4 will accommodate domestic and European Schengen destinations.
T4S will accommodate European non-Schengen destinations, other international destinations, as well as some domestic and Schengen flights.
Please note: British Airways share the Iberia lounges at Mardrid Airport. British Airways Executive Club lounge access at Madrid Airport is available in both Terminal 4 and the Satelite building (T4S) in the Iberia lounges.
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#16389 - 01/28/06 10:33 PM Re: Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
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Registered: 08/20/01
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Will Delta and Continental continue to operate out of the old terminal?

Do you know if Renfe plans on opening an office in T4 - it is so convenient to pick up train tickets at the airport.

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#16390 - 01/29/06 06:27 AM Re: Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
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Hi CathyM
You can find more information at Aena
This opens in a pop-up window, so you might need to unblock the pop-up blocker in your browser program.
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#16391 - 01/30/06 05:59 AM Re: Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
Torrales Offline
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Quote:
Will Delta and Continental continue to operate out of the old terminal?
Right now, yes, they will operate out of T1 as usual. But in a near future both airlines are expected to move to T2-T3.

Quote:
Do you know if Renfe plans on opening an office in T4?
I don't know. Considering that there will be a Zara, a Mango, a spa, and many other businesses in T4, it seems to be logical the existence of a Renfe ticket office. But I cannot honestly confirm it. As soon as I go to T4 (not later than beginning of March), I'll ask and see there, and I promise to post the result of the query here.

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#16392 - 02/05/06 05:19 PM Re: Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
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Registered: 02/17/03
Posts: 113
Loc: USA
Hello

I just landed in Miami from Madrid via AA which departed Madrid at 11:15am from T4. I took the Metro to the airport and then Aena bus outside Terminal 2 to T4. I could have continued to Barajas and then take 201 or 204.

Make sure you allow some 20 minutes from T-2 to
T-4, it is like another airport! Once there, you will go through the Guardia Civil checking point, go down some electric stairs, take a train to the Passport Control area and finally to the duty free area and your terminal S,U etc. You need to make time, it is big, modern and gorgeous, state of the art terminal.

I expected more chaos. To my surprise, much better than expected. They will have green uniformed Aena reps starting at Metro exit and all over the airport helping travelers. Of course, on the first day, they are also learning the airport and scratched theirs heads a few times before directing you, but they were friendly and helpful.

I only had one hour to walk around the shops, spa and Iberia VIP lounge. All I can say is that I am very impressed with everything I saw.

It tood me by total surprise. I wish I have read this forum and informed myself better, instead I had to figure it out. Learned my lesson MM!

Thanks to all for the information above. I will read it and map out my strategy better for next trip.

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#16393 - 02/06/06 11:00 AM Re: Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
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Loc: seattle
I was on the first Intl flight out of T4 onSunday to London. There was a little confusion as to be expected, but it is huge, make sure to give yourself ample time to get to your gate, as it is a maze of escalators and trams.

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#16394 - 02/06/06 04:29 PM Re: Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
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I saw the opening of the new terminal on Los Desayunos con TVE this morning ... they seemed to think it was very chaotic with people getting lost and such..... I am sure that was a little exagerrated...makes for a more exciting story right? It looks like a beautiful new building.
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#16395 - 02/06/06 05:42 PM Re: Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
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It was kind of comical, the British Airways PR staff was there taking pictures of us as we were getting onto the plane, they seemed very excited about the opening. I was bummed that the Duty free store was not open though!

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#16396 - 09/17/06 11:52 PM Re: Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
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Now that the new terminal has been open for more than 6 months, does anyone have any definitive experiences to share? What is the best way to get there from the city out of the choices available?
How is the shopping?

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#16397 - 09/18/06 04:16 AM Re: Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
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Flew out of T4 with BA a couple of weeks ago. Everybody seems to be confused on where to go as the information and signs are terrible.

Our plane was delayed because the baggage handlers forgot to put the bags on the plane. Ended up a 2 hour delay.

Coming back to T4 last week was just as bad. 1 hour and 10 minutes waiting for the bags. There were about 500 people from different flights waiting for luggage. People were not happy.

Flying out again tomorrow so hopefully it will be a pleasant experience. If not i'll go back to using Easyjet as they fly from T1
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#16398 - 09/18/06 10:27 AM Re: Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
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Registered: 08/02/01
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I'm flying in to the new T4 next Monday and I'm really looking forward to seeing it - check out the photos on Wikipedia , it looks amazing. I was reading that it's up for an award for world building of the year. Apparently it's the largest airport in the world in terms of terminal area.

From the first time I ever flew to Madrid I thought how lousy the airport was for a capital city of the stature of Madrid, so I'm pleased to see it's now got one worthy of it's status. I just hope that baggage or transport problems don't give me a bad first impression of it!

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#16399 - 10/01/06 11:20 PM Re: Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
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Registered: 03/20/06
Posts: 30
Loc: Wichita, KS
NOTE: For those who use the metro.

The last stop on line 8 is T4. However, that takes you outside to a bus that you will have to use your metro ticket again to get to T4. However, if you take the stop beforehand (at T1,T2, and T3) you can catch a free bus from that terminal to T4 and not have to pay the extra fare. Yes, it's not too expensive either way, but it's not much shorter the second way.

Just an FYI from experience!

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#16400 - 10/02/06 03:00 AM Re: Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
Torrales Offline
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Sorry, wesrick, the last stop on line 8 is not T4, but Barajas.

Currently (as of October 2006), the two last stations in line 8 are:
- Aeropuerto (the last-but-one), that serves terminals T2 and T3 (onsite) and T1 with a 5-10 minutes walk through the terminals. As you rightly say, there is a free transfer bus that takes you from T1/2/3 to T4, just follow the 'transfer bus' signs once you get out from the metro station.
- Barajas (the last one), that serves the town of Barajas, not any airport terminal. From there, as you say, there is a bus (#201) that takes you to T4 and requires you to pay again.

Sometime in 2007, a new station will be added to the line after Barajas, and that one will actually serve T4. Its name is unveiled yet. It is important to know that, if you use Metrobus (the 10-trip ticket) to pay your metro trip, an additional fare will be required to take this last leg of the line 8 (Barajas-New station), unlike using a single metroMadrid ticket that allows you to use the full Madrid metro network. So, once this station is opened, if your final destination is it, buy a metroMadrid single ticket (1 euro currently).

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#16401 - 10/17/06 06:01 AM Re: Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
Jamongris Offline
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Registered: 06/30/03
Posts: 279
Loc: Madrid, from London
I´ve just read this terminal has won an award, the Sterling prize for archtecture

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/10/15/nprize15.xml

Well it certainly looks nice, but until the facilities are used properly and the metro arrives there, in my opinion flying into and out of T4 is a pain in the a**e. mad

The problem seems to be getting cases across from the satellite terminal 4S, if you are unlucky enough to end up there. It´s a long way from 4, and I and others I know have had to wait up to an hour after arriving in the baggage hall.

Then if you use the metro, as detailed above, you have to get a bus to T2, then walk to the metro.

It´s main benefit so far is that if you use T1 you can now find a seat and check in relatively easily.

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#16402 - 10/19/06 01:01 PM Re: Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
Lee345 Offline
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Registered: 09/16/06
Posts: 4
Loc: Netherlands
Taking the Metro line 8 to Aeropuerto where all folks with suitcases get off... as mentioned, the stop before last. Good thing about this Metro # 8, it has an alerting signal system on board, letting you know which next stop is coming around, good for first time undergound rolleyes travelers.

Fun item also, I was in Madrid a week ago, is entering the Metro from the Airport, you may find a tourist stand right downstairs, at the entrance of the Metro, who offer their (not used parts of the) 10(strip) ticket!

Happened to me twice, once coming into Madrid from Holland and the next time after returning a week later from Asturias... lucky.

The Shuttle Bus bus, btw. is BLUE, easy to spot outside and the signs inside Terminal are easy to follow too.

I want to go back! :jump:

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#16403 - 12/04/06 01:39 AM Re: Madrid Barajas Airport - New Terminal (T4) opening
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Registered: 03/17/01
Posts: 558
Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
I found an interesting wesite with some comments about the new terminal (T-4) and Madrid airport in general:

airlinequality.com

I agree with several observations. The new terminal seems "pointlessly large" (at least until use of the new Airbus A-380 becomes commonplace), and I didn't see the reason for passing through security and then having to do it again before boarding. I surrendered my water bottle at the first security point and then purchased one and had to do it again before boarding the plane. Lucky I was thirsty!

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