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#80346 - 12/12/05 05:55 AM Bilingual education? What message are we sending?
Chica Offline
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In this day and age, when the command of more than one (or two!) languages is seen as a benefit and in many cases, a necessity...what kind of message is the United States sending its citizens with actions such as the one described in the following article??

I was wholly disappointed to read about this case in the Washington Post. Does anyone else think that the school's reaction was just way over the top?

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Spanish At School Translates to Suspension

By T.R. Reid

KANSAS CITY, Kan., Dec. 8 -- Most of the time, 16-year-old Zach Rubio converses in clear, unaccented American teen-speak, a form of English in which the three most common words are "like," "whatever" and "totally." But Zach is also fluent in his dad's native language, Spanish -- and that's what got him suspended from school.

"It was, like, totally not in the classroom," the high school junior said, recalling the infraction. "We were in the, like, hall or whatever, on restroom break. This kid I know, he's like, 'Me prestas un dolar?' ['Will you lend me a dollar?'] Well, he asked in Spanish; it just seemed natural to answer that way. So I'm like, 'No problema.' "

But that conversation turned out to be a big problem for the staff at the Endeavor Alternative School, a small public high school in an ethnically mixed blue-collar neighborhood. A teacher who overheard the two boys sent Zach to the office, where Principal Jennifer Watts ordered him to call his father and leave the school.

Watts, whom students describe as a disciplinarian, said she can't discuss the case. But in a written "discipline referral" explaining her decision to suspend Zach for 1 1/2 days, she noted: "This is not the first time we have [asked] Zach and others to not speak Spanish at school."

Since then, the suspension of Zach Rubio has become the talk of the town in both English and Spanish newspapers and radio shows. The school district has officially rescinded his punishment and said that speaking a foreign language is not grounds for suspension. Meanwhile, the Rubio family has retained a lawyer, who says a civil rights lawsuit may be in the offing.

The tension here surrounding that brief exchange in a high school hall reflects a broader national debate over the language Americans should speak amid a wave of Hispanic immigration.

The National Council of La Raza, a Hispanic advocacy group, says that 20 percent of the U.S. school-age population is Latino. For half of those Latino students, the native language is Spanish.

Conflicts are bursting out nationwide over bilingual education, "English-only" laws, Spanish-language publications and advertising, and other linguistic collisions. Language concerns have been a key aspect of the growing political movement to reduce immigration.

"There's a lot of backlash against the increasing Hispanic population," said D.C. school board member Victor A. Reinoso. "We've seen some of it in the D.C. schools. You see it in some cities, where people complain that their tax money shouldn't be used to print public notices in Spanish. And there have been cases where schools want to ban foreign languages."

Some advocates of an English-only policy in U.S. schools say that it is particularly important for students from immigrant families to use the nation's dominant language.

California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) made that point this summer when he vetoed a bill authorizing various academic subjects to be tested in Spanish in the state's public schools. "As an immigrant," the Austrian-born governor said, "I know the importance of mastering English as quickly and as comprehensively as possible."

Hispanic groups generally agree with that, but they emphasize the value of a multilingual citizenry. "A fully bilingual young man like Zach Rubio should be considered an asset to the community," said Janet Murguia, national president of La Raza.

The influx of immigrants has reached every corner of the country -- even here in Kansas City, which is about as far as a U.S. town can be from a border. Along Southwest Boulevard, a main street through some of the older neighborhoods, there are blocks where almost every shop and restaurant has signs written in Spanish.

"Most people, they don't care where you're from," said Zach's father, Lorenzo Rubio, a native of Veracruz, Mexico, who has lived in Kansas City for a quarter-century. "But sometimes, when they hear my accent, I get this, sort of, 'Why don't you go back home?' "

Rubio, a U.S. citizen, credits U.S. immigration law for his decision to fight his son's suspension.

"You can't just walk in and become a citizen," he said. "They make you take this government test. I studied for that test, and I learned that in America, they can't punish you unless you violate a written policy."

Rubio said he remembered that lesson on Nov. 28, when he received a call from Endeavor Alternative saying his son had been suspended.

"So I went to the principal and said, 'My son, he's not suspended for fighting, right? He's not suspended for disrespecting anyone. He's suspended for speaking Spanish in the hall?' So I asked her to show me the written policy about that. But they didn't have" one.

Rubio then called the superintendent of the Turner Unified School District, which operates the school. The district immediately rescinded Zach's suspension, local media reported. The superintendent did not respond to several requests to comment for this article.

Since then, the issue of speaking Spanish in the hall has not been raised at the school, Zach said. "I know it would be, like, disruptive if I answered in Spanish in the classroom. I totally don't do that. But outside of class now, the teachers are like, 'Whatever.' "

For Zach's father, and for the Hispanic organizations that have expressed concern, the suspension is not a closed case. "Obviously they've violated his civil rights," said Chuck Chionuma, a lawyer in Kansas City, Mo., who is representing the Rubio family. "We're studying what form of legal redress will correct the situation."

Said Rubio: "I'm mainly doing this for other Mexican families, where the legal status is kind of shaky and they are afraid to speak up. Punished for speaking Spanish? Somebody has to stand up and say: This is wrong."


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#80347 - 12/12/05 01:57 PM Re: Bilingual education? What message are we sending?
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When I first saw the article I was as shocked as you. I can only hope it was just some misguided (and poorly placed) principal reacting horrendously to a non-situation. It felt to me like progress had taken a leap back to the 50s. At least the school district did the right thing...I wonder what action, if any, will be taken against the principal.

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#80348 - 12/12/05 04:13 PM Re: Bilingual education? What message are we sending?
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As described by this article, I agree, Chica, it is nonsense!

If the school board does not have a written policy prohibiting this behavior, then they have opened themselves to being accused of discriminatory practices. The Rubio’s will certainly win this nonsense case.

If Miss Watts is concerned about the efficacy of her school; a more productive approach would have been to study why some students begin conversations in Spanish instead of English. Including parents as well as students in a focus group may open her eyes to possible problems in her school. She might have found that some of her students are not being taught English effectively, as apparently is the case of young Mr. Rubio!

Regarding bi-lingual education, if it is done properly and by competent teachers, it is a wonderful way to learn two languages. However, there has to be a strong commitment on the part of all parties involved. The student, parents, teachers, and community have to be aware that this type of education will pay dividends at a different rate. It has been well documented in pedagogy that children learn languages best in their early years. Introducing a language at the high school level is often too late for many.

I wish La Maestra would visit because this is in her area of expertise.
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#80349 - 12/13/05 09:02 AM Re: Bilingual education? What message are we sending?
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There was one word that stood out like a sore thumb "alternative." Most of the time when I see that word applied to a school, it means the school is designed for special curriculum. Here in Arizona, it is usually disiplinary problems. Something tells me there is more to this story than "Little Lord Fontleroy" speaking Spanish. I did not see anything in that article that had anything to do with bilingual education.

As far as anything happening to that principal, don't hold your breath. There is that term "tenure" again.
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#80350 - 12/13/05 10:29 PM Re: Bilingual education? What message are we sending?
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DD--unless things are different in Arizona than in California, principals and administrators in general do not have tenure. They can be fired at any time. If they have "tenure" in a school district, it is at the teacher level, not the administrator level. Even then, there would have to be an opening in their credentialed field. I've never seen an adminstrator who was fired (and we've had a lot of them in San Diego) actually come back as a teacher.

You're right, this probably has little to do with bilingual education, and more to do with intolerance in general. How sad it is that Americans do not seem to value the ability to speak multiple languages. I wish we taught at least two other languages starting from kindergarten (and I don't mean just saying the days of the week in Spanish, like my kids did.!)

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#80351 - 12/14/05 10:40 AM Re: Bilingual education? What message are we sending?
Bill from NYC Offline
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In this day and age, when the command of more than one (or two!) languages is seen as a benefit and in many cases, a necessity...what kind of message is the United States sending its citizens with actions such as the one described in the following article??
Why do you base the education system of small area of the US as the policy of the education of United States? I do not see the connection.

I not concern because I live in New York City and Kansas City has no influence or decision power in New York City education system.

Also ask yourself this, if a teacher does not speak Spanish, some of her students do, what stops those students from bad mouthing the teacher in Spanish in front of the teachers. Sometimes speaking a foreign language can be consider bad behavior or impolite in certain situations. School is a place English should be. Anyone can go to a school where Spanish is only spoken only the parents have to pay for it.

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#80352 - 12/14/05 11:05 AM Re: Bilingual education? What message are we sending?
desert dweller Offline
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Bill from NYC: I have to agree with you, the fact that this kid is in an alternative school leads me to think he has some disiplinary problems. The school staff has to maintain disipline and good order. Also the fact that the father was quick to run to a lawyer means they are looking for a chance to make the "big score" via the courts. The old man sounds like he has a real chip on his shoulder also. If he has been in this country for 25 years and feels like people look down on him, maybe it is because he looks down on himself. People see you, the way you see yourself.

Like I said before there is more to this story than is being brought out by that article.
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#80353 - 12/14/05 03:10 PM Re: Bilingual education? What message are we sending?
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Get real! The kid was jiving around at break out in the hall and just answering another kid's question. The teacher and principal acted like prejudiced jerks.
If the kid broke some stupid rule why not just talk to him like a human being and try to get it straighted out.
The world we live in now has become more international and that's great, we should embrace this chance and become more tolerant and accepting instead of the narrow minded and petty way these caretakers acted

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#80354 - 12/14/05 03:43 PM Re: Bilingual education? What message are we sending?
Bill from NYC Offline
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If the kid broke some stupid rule
That is your problem, it not the caretakers that is the problem and you blame them for enforcing the rules. It is that they have rules to speak English.

In this country people have to learn to conform and be tolerate. That means they have to learn and speak English, to conform to the society to be tolerate of those who do not speak Spanish. School is not a public place and those student have to learn to follow the rules, English rules!

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#80355 - 12/14/05 06:47 PM Re: Bilingual education? What message are we sending?
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Here is another article that better describes the incident, from the Kansas City Kansan.

The article clarifies that the school system does not suspend students for speaking foreign languages:
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However, Bart Swartz, executive director of certified personnel for Turner, said Superintendent Bobby Allen was apprised of the situation immediately and met with Rubio.

"As soon as the superintendent found out the student was suspended, the superintendent notified the student that he could come back to school," Swartz said. "We do not stand behind suspending students for speaking foreign languages."
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"It was wrong," Allen said. "It was rectified. I can say is the school has been notified."

Allen said he was told by Watts that Zach was being disruptive and it is important that the teachers be able to communicate and know what the students are saying. He said there are programs in place for staff at Turner that focus on cultural and ethnic sensitivities and he has spoken to staff about what is acceptable conduct at the school. He did not say why Watts has not complied.

Foreign languages is a required course at the school, Swartz said. In fact, the school offers French and Spanish to its students.
If I might add a couple of pieces of information, the term "alternative" in school, does not necessarily mean that it stands for students with disciplinary problems. There are alternative schools that are made up of students and parents that express an interest in science for example, the curricula is then tailored for that specific program. Home schooling is also called an alternative program, as an example.

The second piece of interesting information is found in the Turner High School Report Card for 2004-2005. From the data given a quick assessment may be made that this school is a school for generally bright and wealthier students.

Demographically:
9.4% of the students are African Americans;
16.1% are Hispanics;
69.9% are Whites;and,
5.2 % of the students are other ethnicities and races

Of the 16.1% Hispanics only a small number have
limited English proficiency. Only 3.1% of Turner's students have limited English proficiency, versus 4.6% in the school district and 5.5% in the state.

In regards to Economical advantage vs. disadvantaged students:
67.5% of the students attending Turner are economically advantaged; versus 50.5% of economically advantaged students in the school district; and 61.8 in the State. This means that the students attending Turner come from wealthier backgrounds.

Interesting.
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