pim,

Reference to someone's position on an issue as being "childish" is a slap in the face. Neither of these men (one of which served 3 terms in DC as a member of the House of Representatives - Democrat I might add - and left because he got tired of the back room dealings of politics, not because he was beat in an election) deserves to be insulted like you did them.

If you're wondering why we react as we do, just remember the term "childish." You did exactly what the Republicans would hope you'd do. People will vote against statements like that to prove they are loyal to their nation, and the person who throws out comments like that are foolish.

Like I said, try to understand the influences as to what motivates people how to vote. Running blindly at an issue and throwing insults at anyone who disagrees will push more people over to the other side than you'd imagine.

Why do you think that Bush won so many southern states which at one time were part of the "solid south," and purely in the Democratic column for decades? Because the Republicans have done their homework over the years, and flexed their positions on issues to reflect the concerns of the people in these states. In the meantime, the Democrats kept thinking that they had those states all wrapped up, and they didn't have to do a darned thing to keep them in house.

Learn from errors, and address the problems, and hope you don't let history repeat itself. But never, never, believe that your point of view is the correct one, and everyone else's point of view has to be wrong simply because you don't agree with it. You'll end up losing almost every time.

Wolf