Okay, this is MY last response about Wisconsin. I really do think it is a beautiful state. My sister did her undergraduate degree in Madison and part of Med school in Milwaukee, both of which I like a lot. We also spent a few summers camping on the Apostle islands, which are so, so pretty. Cultural mecca, no, but nice nonetheless. smile Minnesota ain't so bad either. We spent a few winters cross-country skiing there with family friends. damn cold though.