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#53198 - 10/22/02 08:01 PM Franco
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Franco's secrets haunt Spain

Families in search of truth witness the exhumation of three women victims of Falangist tyranny

Giles Tremlett in Madrid
Monday October 21, 2002
The Guardian

More terrible secrets from Spain's civil war were uncovered yesterday as the bones of three women dragged from their beds and shot by General Franco's supporters 66 years ago were dug up by campaigners seeking to shed light on the fate of 30,000 people.
Relatives of the three women, whose bodies were tossed into a ditch outside the central town of Candaleda on the night of December 29 1936, looked on in tense silence as the first bones were brought to the surface by a mechanical digger.

"My mother was killed because she was a reader of the Socialista newspaper," Obdulia Camacho, 80, recalled.

The dead women were named as Obdulia's mother, Pilar, then 43, Virtudes de la Puente, 53, whose only apparent crime was to be a Protestant republican, and a 26-year-old pregnant woman called Valeriana Granada
Much more study needs to be done....

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#53199 - 10/23/02 02:53 PM Re: Franco
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wow Toddy, those little paragraphs really pack a wallop!

i'm sure that others, as well as myself, would be interested in any hyperlinks you run across regarding the spanish civil war...

thanks for posting that@!

andrew
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#53200 - 10/23/02 07:45 PM Re: Franco
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Isn't there that famous Spanish judge who could prosecute the former Franco generals. I still think international law still supercedes any Spanish post Franco agreement on protection of these people. (or is this judge just interested in Pinochet?)

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#53201 - 10/25/02 02:25 PM Re: Franco
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Let's NOT bring Franco up from the grave, shall we? eek He's dead and gone already.

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#53202 - 10/25/02 04:53 PM Re: Franco
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I think it was more a case of bringing some murdered women up from their mass grave and treating their remains with all the respect they deserved and honouring them with a proper burial. The movement to discover the resting places of countless civil war dead is a noble one and I personally applaud it.

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#53203 - 10/25/02 09:39 PM Re: Franco
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Thank you Barry, I totally agree with you.
"Those that forget the past are bound to repeat it"

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#53204 - 10/25/02 10:37 PM Re: Franco
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This is just the tip of the iceberg. The question is, does the government really want to go down this road. There are literally thousands of people who suffered the same fate from both sides of the Civil War. It wasn't just one side that was guilty.

The decision on where they go from here should be made by the people who lost loved ones under questionable circumstances from both sides.

Wolf

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#53205 - 10/26/02 05:54 PM Re: Franco
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[originally posted by Quintos233 on 10-26-2002 at 05:49 PM]
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Ive heard that Franco was Galician and not Castilian like most people believe.
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#53206 - 10/26/02 05:55 PM Re: Franco
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Hmmm! Interesting. I've only heard that Franco was from Galicia. Anyone else heard that he was from Castilla??
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#53207 - 10/26/02 10:57 PM Re: Franco
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MadridMan, you are correct Franco was born in Galicia, in El Ferrol .
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