airline ticket question about length of flight but no visa??

Hi i want to buy a ticket for a six month trip. But i will be traveling without any type of visa. Will there be any problems at the airport?? I am going as a visitor, and i have my passport, but i plan on staying longer than i'm allowed. I'm leaving Los Angeles airport... any help would be appreciated..

thanks!

If you plan on leaving Spain within 3 months of arriving, then you should be fine. You MUST leave within 90 days though, make sure your passport is stamped by another country, then return! Enjoy yourself!

no,, i plan on staying longer than three months... actually i want to stay for a year....

I'm thinking that you will HAVE to LEAVE the country every three months and get a stamp back into the country. I don't know what your money situation is like but a nice weekend trip to Portugal or southern France isn't too bad. Also you can find a cheap flight to London or Dublin and stay for a few days. I think you may have some problems if you do not leave Spain during the year (if you do not have a visa to stay longer).

Perhaps someone else can give you some input, but I'm pretty sure you will need to leave at some point.

Good luck/Buena suerte,
marilisa

Well, I am pretty much planning on staying there illegally. I'm just trying to get my flight situation assorted.

Also once I leave and they realize I was there longer than allowed. What are the repercussions? How long are you exiled for??

Also, can't I just buy a one way to ticket to Spain, and if they stop me, just say I’m taking a train to France then flying out of France in a couple of months?? Is it really necessary to buy a round trip ticket??

Also, if I leave a year later out of France, will that be considered breaking the Visa stay in Spain?? I mean... as far as Spain knows I spent two weeks in Barcelona, then the next eleven months in France or traveling Europe... SO... there has to be ways around from getting forbidden to reenter a country because of over staying.

When I fly to Spain through Amsterdam, the stamp comes in The Netherlands. No one in Spain ever checks, as long as you come from another Schengen country. (Not that they can't!)

They have no way of knowing when you entered Spain.

I'm living in Spain just now, with a similar situation, except that my 'pecado' will be an overage of only 30 days. With a vested interest here in Spain, I need to kick start my tourist visa.

I just went to Portugal for a week-long seminar. Because Portugal is a EC member, there was no need to pass through customs or get my passport stamped, much to my chagrin!

However, a little bird told me that England, having not integrated into the EC completely, still requires passengers to go through customs on flights from the mainland. Before I go about buying air tix, I'd like to be sure that someone will be there to stamp my passport!

Feedback please!

In order for you to get a "reset" in your passport, and get 3 more moths, you will need to go to a non-EU country, such as Andorra.

Going to Portugal, England, Andorra, or anywhere else in the world for a week won't "restart" your tourist visa. The law says that you're allowed to be in Spain for 90 out of 180 days. So, if you stay in Spain for 3 months the only way you can come back with a new tourist visa is if you stay out of Spain (and the Schengen zone--which by the way doesn't include England) for 3 months--to total the 180 days. So, please don't think that after a weekend trip you'll be able to live legally in Spain again for another 90 days; of course that doesn't mean you can't try coming back illegally. If you plan on staying illegally it's probably better to just stay in Spain. I wouldn't take my chances travelling if I were you because you never know what problems you may run into in airports if they discover you've overstayed your tourist visa.

Things may have changed in the past year, but when i flew the Bilbao to London route I did have to have my passport stamped. I belive there were 2 lines...one for EU citizens, and one for non-EU citizens...this stands out in my mind because out of the entire plane I was the ONLY non-eu citizen Again, that may have changed though, so id double check. Good Luck!

I am in a similar situation...staying beyond the 90 day travel visa. From what I hear, it is best to fly from the states directly into MAD. There are a number of flights that offer direct flights from the East Coast to Madrid. Try not to fly between EU countries, use the rail or buses instead and you should be fine. And as mentioned above, avoid London airports (I've also heard that Amsterdam is tough too). At least this is what I have been advised, I hope it is true!

Good luck!

Thanks to all those who replied. Your advice is truly constructive!

I was turning it over in my mind as to what to do. I had heard that England does not participate in the Shengen agreement, but couldnt get a confirmation. Still, I dont want to rock the boat. After talking to several people, I have decided that my best option is to sit tight, make as little noise as possible, and depart at the planned time.

I am a bit nervous about it, cuz I have a vested interest in returning. Hope I am not shooting myself in the foot!

jules

Well, since 2003 I have made 5 flights from Madrid to Washington D.C. All of these took place after I had been in Madrid for more than 3 months and I never had any problem whatsoever. However, I am a 26 year old white male with a USA passport so that helps.